<Turl>
leviathancn: you can register via mail, yeha
<Turl>
leviathancn: sup
<leviathancn>
Turl, mripard_ is: there a non Google mailinglist registration point?
<leviathancn>
does it know mail commands?
<leviathancn>
we can not find a non-google subscription tool for the sunxi mailinglist
<leviathancn>
Turl: are you there?
2015-02-02
<Turl>
hramrach: leviathancn and you can read the list via gmane or such
<Turl>
leviathancn: hramrach: you can use dev@linux-sunxi.org to mail, that is bounced on a non-googly place. And the wiki is on .de, no google involved
<ssvb>
leviathancn: are we going to have signed and locked bootloaders? or is this optional and can be disabled?
<ssvb>
leviathancn: what does "Supports Trusted Firmware security architecture from ARM" mean for A64?
<leviathancn>
gn8 ^^
<leviathancn>
A64
<leviathancn>
hramrach: a lot better
<leviathancn>
anyway
<leviathancn>
and if needed I help translate
<leviathancn>
everyone can ask questions
<leviathancn>
and the kernel drivers will be provided in mainline
<leviathancn>
pack all the blobs (like power vr driver) into RPMs
<leviathancn>
we decided to use a GNU/Linux on the tablet
<leviathancn>
we aren't talking about software side
<leviathancn>
hramrach: yes, because it has a lot of power
<leviathancn>
hmm
<leviathancn>
we are talking about the hardware aspects
<leviathancn>
anyway
<leviathancn>
the gpu ones of course knew it ^^
<leviathancn>
well, at least to some of the engineers
<leviathancn>
it actually crashes and reboots
<leviathancn>
is architectural
<leviathancn>
power vr IS buggy
<leviathancn>
that's hardware
<leviathancn>
that I had to explain even to them
<leviathancn>
and the A64 isn't done yet
<leviathancn>
I had a long talk with them today
<leviathancn>
hramrach: yes... I know
<mripard_>
leviathancn: I'm not sure changing a controller halfway through the life of a chip is such a bright idea
<leviathancn>
wait for it, a lot of changes are comming
<leviathancn>
*dang*
<leviathancn>
so that we can use the generic mmc driver in the future
<leviathancn>
we decided today that the register layout of the MMC controller within A80 and A64 will be adapted
<leviathancn>
ah, and btw
<leviathancn>
thx ^^
<leviathancn>
but first I will sleep a round
<leviathancn>
I will send an email to the sunxi group
<leviathancn>
then you can be sure to be understood
<leviathancn>
and if needed add a chinese explenation about what you mean exactly
<leviathancn>
just make phrases simple, make sure it can be found in a chinese-english dictionary
<leviathancn>
many words they just don't know and they are just too shy to admit
<leviathancn>
wens: bi lingual helps
<leviathancn>
yes
<wens>
leviathancn: quite a few computer related phrases are completely different
<leviathancn>
like "refrigerator"... I had to get the dictionary for the Chinese word (Chocolat I brought for a presen... tropic climate...)
<leviathancn>
especially, it already starts at simple daily life words
<wens>
leviathancn: a lot of phrases are still different though
<leviathancn>
wens: jep, will help a lot
<leviathancn>
^^
<vovcia>
leviathancn: thats really great news :)))
<leviathancn>
"太棒,不是?"-"是"
<leviathancn>
well, they are totally into building a community tablet
<leviathancn>
ok
<leviathancn>
^^
<leviathancn>
just was rolling around in my bed because I had to
<leviathancn>
just wanted to present the good news
<leviathancn>
I will write an email, but first I need some sleep, it's already 5.a.m. here,
<leviathancn>
ok
<nove>
leviathancn: please write to maillist telling about this, not everyone keep track of what happens in irc
<leviathancn>
they have it for a month now
<leviathancn>
it's actually a stunningly big enterprise building
<leviathancn>
guess where the Allwinner mailserver is standing... -.-'
<leviathancn>
haha
<leviathancn>
ok
<leviathancn>
I will receive all the documentation
<leviathancn>
anyhow
<leviathancn>
and that they are overworked
<leviathancn>
most likely it's just such a simple but relevant problem as that they haven't found the alternative interface on baidu
<leviathancn>
language barrier and reduced possibilities of search engines
<leviathancn>
many of the developers have issues with the language
<leviathancn>
the other one is
<leviathancn>
but it's only one of the issues
<leviathancn>
hramrach: can you post it?
<leviathancn>
hmm
<DagoRed>
Oh dear leviathancn. I've been in similiar shoes before. Kudos for going through the hoops you have been jumping through and awesome job finding the root cause of communication issues (google IP I assume is the big issue)
<leviathancn>
and we can do a community tablet with full support
<leviathancn>
so yes, sunxi project will recieve more cooperation
<leviathancn>
actually everything which has being critized, after explaining it was totally accepted
<leviathancn>
I stepped forward to fill this gap between sunxi and Allwinner
<leviathancn>
it's like totally just miscommunication... just because folks there just don't understand right what people are writing...
<leviathancn>
yes
<leviathancn>
hehe
<leviathancn>
we decided onto a mix of Chinese and English so that he isn't like panicing "oh god! I don't know this word!"
<WarheadsSE>
leviathancn: :)
<leviathancn>
one of them actually talks it fluently
<leviathancn>
I met exactly 4 people who know English
<leviathancn>
among 50 people
<leviathancn>
but remember
<leviathancn>
on which the sunxi project members and I and the Allwinner folks can communicate
<leviathancn>
we should allocate a non-google-ip-ed way of communication
<leviathancn>
anyway
<leviathancn>
hmm
<leviathancn>
I think they will give me some satisfying agreement
<leviathancn>
but since I've shown willingness to learn their language and had some ground breaking ideas for them
<leviathancn>
they are at the decision phase right now I think whether they should actually employ me or not
<leviathancn>
traditional Chinese food is delicious btw ^^
<leviathancn>
and we discussed some changes on the register layout of the A80 and A64
<leviathancn>
I was out with the chip designers as well
<leviathancn>
the folks from Allwinner are all nice
<leviathancn>
anyway
<leviathancn>
great firewall
<leviathancn>
internet here is buggy
<leviathancn>
sorry
<leviathancn>
btw, they are planning to get rid of most of the binary blobs
<leviathancn>
including all documentation
<leviathancn>
and we decided onto a full cooperation with the sunxi project
<leviathancn>
I just have been to their place
<leviathancn>
the reason why there is so few interaction from Allwinner with the sunxi folks is:
<leviathancn>
and b) google groups and any google ips aren't routet into China mainland
<leviathancn>
a) only a hand full of people there can actually understand English