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<rneese>
we updated the builder and built all the desktops here
<rneese>
IgorPec, has gnome workign but it still needs tweaks
<rneese>
I have a list of issues I found on each desktop
<rneese>
sent you what I have found with each one
<rneese>
but overall the builder stage 1 is updated and these are the desktops we have
<rneese>
kde will be done asap
<rneese>
and lxde I think I know how to fix but will have to test
<rneese>
lxqt I ment
<rneese>
calling it a night and will check in tomorrow
<lanefu>
rneese: i bet you got blisters on your fingers
<rneese>
lol
<rneese>
no it was all easy and now we have a few things to fix but then this stage is complete
<rneese>
XFCE/Budgie/Cinnamon/DeepIn/Enlightment/Gnome3/LXDE/Mateall build and run
<rneese>
just some very minor things like themeing and LightDM autologin not working on all desktops
<rneese>
and all use under 800M before loading up apps
<rneese>
lxde only used 400mb Enlightment used 480mb
<rneese>
so those are the 2 lightest and
<rneese>
XFCE used 580mb with just desktop alone
<rneese>
so once we fix things and get them all working we can roll out alpha2 imgs for testing on more boards
<rneese>
so thats what I have done
<rneese>
with myy and igore
<rneese>
so be ready for testing
<rneese>
gn talk tomorrow
<lanefu>
rneese: holy shit dude!
<lanefu>
sorry i havent been keeping up.. nice freaking work
<rneese>
just sent you the now know issues on the new desktop
<rneese>
we also rebased the builder to master and igore help clean it up today
<rneese>
i dm them to you
<rneese>
so we are waiting for myy to accept the new branch and rebase
<rneese>
all the desktops have been tested on ubuntu first
<rneese>
and then we will clone it over to debian side and work on the pkgs there
<rneese>
and fins out what desktops do and dont work on debian
<rneese>
I like that armbian builds both debian and ubuntu imgs but soome things have not been ported to debian and ppa dont work on debian
<rneese>
so
<rneese>
ok gn all and chat tomorrow
<lanefu>
yaeh i imagine some of thesee will jut havee to be ubuntu.. and thats okay
<lanefu>
but its great to have so many options
<lanefu>
gn
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<JohnDoe2>
so funny thing happened. I am trying to install zfs-dkms, which of course failed several times, got to the point where I said ok, gotta remove it, purge, reboot and try again. Did that, purge, reboot, and now armbian has no clue there's a nic interface :)
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<JohnDoe2>
don't know if openmediavault suddenly decided "I'm going to mess up the nic now, 30 reboots later!", no idea, its config still has ethernet
<JohnDoe2>
yeah it blasted everything, there's no armbian-config, no python. all of that crap gets removed with zfs-dkms ?! I doubt it, gotta be something else I did.
<Tonymac32>
ugh
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<lanefu>
yeah you werent doing zfs root, right?
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<JohnDoe2>
no
<JohnDoe2>
just zfs-dkms for now, once I get that going maybe I'll be able to do zfs-linux and force it somehow since it has that requirement mess-up
<Tonymac32>
didn't OMV radically change directions on it's ARM versions? I haven't kept up I'm afraid
<JohnDoe2>
it probably did, this is my first meet with it
<JohnDoe2>
when I try to install the zfs plugins (there's 2 for some reason) they each complain about a missing zfs of sorts
<JohnDoe2>
one says armhf the other does not
<JohnDoe2>
beats me, I just see other people able to use it so I figured maybe I'm able to follow instructions but of course, on my system I get amazing errors that I have to google for hours
<Tonymac32>
rofl sounds right
<JohnDoe2>
yup ;)
<Tonymac32>
I have a Helios64 in the mail somewhere between China and my house, I'm expecting some shenanigans when I got to set up
<JohnDoe2>
yeah I'm on a rockpro64, same rk3399 chipset, it should be fun.
<archetech>
heard omv stopped promoting it for arm
<archetech>
toomuch grief
<Tonymac32>
well, TBH I don't have a running rockpro64, I have 2 of the boards but they don't behave well for me
<Tonymac32>
my Renegade Elite (Libre Computer/Firefly) works fine
<Tonymac32>
Pinebook Pro, also fine
<Tonymac32>
NanoPC T4, flawless
<Tonymac32>
so I duno
<JohnDoe2>
yeah my rockpro64 is also very finicky. They definitely screwed up power management on it
<JohnDoe2>
right now I'm running a u-boot from 2017 compiled by ayufan because mainline u-boot will not boot latest armbian buster image.
<JohnDoe2>
just a bunch of weird inconsistent issues one after another since I started fiddling with it :)
<JohnDoe2>
RPi - all are ok, no issues, one is still working after getting zapped in the NIC (which is now fried, so it uses a usb nic)
<JohnDoe2>
I guess technically it's a nid (dongle) :P
<archetech>
lol @ zapped in the nic
<archetech>
dont taz my nic bro
<JohnDoe2>
lol
<Tonymac32>
lol RPi are as OK as a walled garden can be I guess
<Tonymac32>
Mine were legendarily unstable because I refuse to buy industrial SD cards for $35 boards
<Tonymac32>
and the RPi3 made me abandon them entirely before they had "fixed" the firmware OS"
<Tonymac32>
I had a bad experience :P
<Tonymac32>
Oh, it's Raspbery Pi OS now, not Raspbian
<Tonymac32>
:P
<Tonymac32>
I need to fire up my last remaining RPi 3 and get octoprint running (hopefully)
<Tonymac32>
lolz still 32 bit
<Tonymac32>
it's a shame I have a day job, I'd enjoy porting all this crap to other more robust systems
<JohnDoe2>
oh that stinks
<JohnDoe2>
yup, there's always an opportunity cost
<JohnDoe2>
error! bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.8.16-rockchip64 --- I think this might be game over for me :/
<Tonymac32>
eek
<IgorPec>
JohnDoe2: zfs build on Focal bersion
<IgorPec>
good morning
<JohnDoe2>
morning :) I shall try
<IgorPec>
JohnDoe2: other solution is using kernel 5.4.y
<IgorPec>
but i belive things will be fixed soon. 5.8.y kernel and ZFS is currently not a perfect combo
<JohnDoe2>
given the META for zfs-dkms apparently 5.6 is the max kernel version it supports
<IgorPec>
in general, not just on armbian
<JohnDoe2>
gotcha
<IgorPec>
well, you can try compile tools and modules from git sourcexs
<IgorPec>
not those that comes with dkms
<IgorPec>
i actually pushed most recent versionm to our repository, so that at least Focal version works
<IgorPec>
but i didn't find time to see why Debian breaks down
<JohnDoe2>
sounds good, booting latest focal
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<neuron>
how do i enable composite out on my bananapi?
<neuron>
read something about fex qand boot.bin but i dont have those in my /boot, can i set something in armbianEnv.txt instead?
<neuron>
what i want is composite-pal output
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<IgorPec>
neuron: not supported
<neuron>
o.O
<neuron>
why dont i have boot.bin/fex and is there any documentation on armbianEnv.txt then?
<IgorPec>
because this is amateur based project
<neuron>
i found some video settings in boot.scr, but that file says to edit armbianEnv.txt instead..
<neuron>
IgorPec, that answer is not helpful, I meant why is there no boot.bin/fex from a technical standpoint and not from a social one.. ^^"
<IgorPec>
i can't help you without spending weeks on this problem. or you think i am a retard and will do that for you? already calling to my office that i won't come there since i have more importnat social duties
<IgorPec>
now, get real
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<neuron>
your an official contributor to armbian?
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<neuron>
i mean i just asked a simple question about config files provided by armbian, should not take weeks to answer that ^^"
<IgorPec>
and even that is not enough, check my answer to someone else having his simple problem. There are a dosent of you asking "simple" questions every day. Nobody asks if we can provide you such a wonderfull service https://forum.armbian.com/topic/15232-rock-pi4c
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<IgorPec>
yes, but since feature is not supported ... this help little
<neuron>
but in https://docs.armbian.com/Hardware_Allwinner/ it says monitor=[none|dvi|hdmi|lcd|vga|composite-*] , so seems composite-pal is supported as a boot parameter after all or is that documentation outdated?
<IgorPec>
idk
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<lanefu>
good morning
<Heisath>
FYI the bug I noticed some weeks ago is still there: On first boot the Clearfog does not honor the MAC address defined in armbianEnv. After a reboot everything works. See pastebin: https://pastebin.com/sRL6F1jb
<Heisath>
Does this also exist on other boards? Shall I create a Jira for this?
<lanefu>
Heisath: there may not be much of a workaround for that if firstboot is having to do the heeavy lifting of making udev tweaks
<Heisath>
There must not be a workaround, I was just wondering if this is a board specific thing or not.
<lanefu>
yeaeh i'm curious now myself
<Heisath>
If it is board specific I would have added a note on the DL page. Otherwise perhaps in the documentation
<lanefu>
quite likely noobody noticed
<Heisath>
Seeing as we had some trouble recently with Ebin random mac's I just wanted to know ;)
<lanefu>
so worth a tickeet just for updating documentation i suppose
<Heisath>
Yeah I just noticed because of MAC collision
<lanefu>
yeah i wonder if ebin does the same thing
<Heisath>
I am pretty sure helios4 does.
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<Heisath>
also the same default MAC on first boot, which let to my MAC collision :D
<lanefu>
ha
<[TheBug]>
yeah thats not new same stuff happens in EBin image pretty sure
<lanefu>
ebin stuff was oriignally some idiot named lane had left a mac hardsete in the config earely on in the board bring up
<Heisath>
ok thanks for confirming. Then we should probably update the documentation
<lanefu>
and it never got claened out until receently
<[TheBug]>
as far as I remembered I never had the mac set in armbianenv.txt work properly
<Heisath>
yeah and the forum troll Igor had something to do with it too. ;ü
<[TheBug]>
but then maybe I didn't pay enough attention after reboots
<Heisath>
armbianEnv works fine. Been using it on my main router for mac assignment.
<[TheBug]>
but definently burnt a ebin image, booted it to then have my other EBin that I didn't change mac address on go offline
<Heisath>
[AR-489]
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-489 [Task] "Check if MAC address from armbianEnv is only used after one reboot, update docs" reported by Heisath at 2020-10-23. Status: To Do
<Heisath>
not sure with the Components selection.
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<neuron>
ok i got my tvout on the bananapi working, just had to blacklist sun4i_drm_hdmi
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<neuron>
but it seems to ignore my overscan parameters
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<Werner>
Good day
<rneese>
morning slackers welcome to Friday
<rneese>
hey lanefu
<Tonymac32>
anyone on who can test a patch to the N2/N2+ C4? It popped up on the linux-amlogic IRC from Neil
<Tonymac32>
This is to address an SD card reboot issue
<Tonymac32>
I have to get back to day job so can't test :P
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<rneese>
who here uses enlightment ?
<rneese>
I need a tester and helper to fix a issue
<IgorPec>
tonymac32: tnx
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<Tonymac32>
if the patch works let me know, or pop into #linux-amlogic and let Neil know directly
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<rneese>
ok anyone here using the enlightenment desktop
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@Nosluop56 (George P): More experiments with the amazing @thepine64 #pinebookpro. @armbian with the MATE desktop looks really good 👍 https://t.co/1wc92xfJC1 (24s ago)
<IgorPec>
tonymac32: sadly no change
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<Tonymac32>
ugh
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@armbian (armbian): @Nosluop56 @thepine64 (Official) Armbian Gnome, DDE and other DE flavours is also in the making! More info https://t.co/Du75SuVIoHhttps://t.co/3rap79PuIE (2s ago)
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<ArmbianTwitter>
@FRG2M (1Fox Nouyz & Toutologisme): @Nosluop56 @thepine64 @armbian Now it looks like any other cheapo X86 laptop of the market <o) (24s ago)
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<rneese>
whats the skinny all
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<scops>
i have problems with opengl on enlightenment... maybe some packages are missing (started from minimal image)... rage (selfcompiled) cant start opengl_x11 and composing with opengl doesnt work :/
<scops>
mesa (glxgears for example) works in general
<IgorPec>
gl is not working properly elsewhere too
<IgorPec>
afaik mesa is buggy - on some hw you need to completly disable 3d engine to use desktop at all
<IgorPec>
so you are not alone
<scops>
ah ok
<scops>
thx
<rneese>
scops, I am workingon it chill pill man
<rneese>
I have it building and working but somehow lightdm and the greeter did not make the list
<rneese>
I am rebuilding a test now
<rneese>
you have to understand the desktop builder is alpha state
<rneese>
we still have package homing to do and cleanup for performance
<rneese>
right now doing the ubuntu side so wee can test and rm ubuntu specific pkgs
<rneese>
then once all is working and tested we can don the same on debian
<rneese>
the hard part about desktops on armbian I find is most where writen with x86/amd64 in mind and not armhf/arm64
<rneese>
so drivers for arm64 overall need major reworking
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<rneese>
there is a raver in the channel . grab him get his glowsticks andd his damcing light gloves
<rneese>
!/damcing/dancing
<ArmbianTwitter>
@AlexRob12252696 (Alex Robinson): @armbian @Nosluop56 @thepine64 when official armbian Gnome comes out, ill probably hop to that. (29s ago)
<archetech>
somebody outta do some panfrost +patched 5.9 kern experiments on armbian
<rneese>
go for it ..
<archetech>
I vote for rneese since he's doin the DE's
<rneese>
hahah
<rneese>
not a kernel person
<rneese>
and I haveing enoght work with desktops
<archetech>
but your work is sitting on old broken mesa-xorg
<archetech>
they go together
<rneese>
waylan I know is in the works
<archetech>
its justa kernel + mesa-git 20.3
<rneese>
heave to get the desktops working and installing first before we going making changes
<archetech>
id do it but deb ubu isnt my thing
<rneese>
we have other work in the buuilder we have to finish first
<rneese>
but its getting there
<archetech>
yup just sayin
<IgorPec>
just kernel and just mesa git is not on the menu
<rneese>
bbl nap time
<IgorPec>
sleep time here
<IgorPec>
:)
<archetech>
guess it shouldnt be for stable stuff but dev it should
<rneese>
scops, you here
<rneese>
I had a issue on enlightent where the mixer is empty
<rneese>
did you have this issue
<scops>
@rneese enlightenment is imho a good option for sbcs... very nice looking (/customizeable) and uses much less resources compared with xfce (...) :)
<scops>
yeah... the mixer doesnt recognize audio... i tryed to fix it with installing alsa ...
<scops>
but nothing
<rneese>
ok
<rneese>
hmmm
<scops>
(i use a odroid c2, connected to a nexdock touch... audio in general works over hdmi)
<rneese>
ok
<rneese>
well once it all builds and things are ok we will have to find a fix for that
<rneese>
to many desktops to do and I have to stream line ech one
<rneese>
ok bbl
<scops>
for enlightenment; if possible libevas-loaders should be a required dep
<scops>
(since it is needed for example to load svgs)
<raver>
rneese: 😁
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<JohnDoe2>
ok so I tried 4.4, 5.8, 5.7, buster and focal - compiling or installing zfs-dkms and failed. Googling for the errors has not proved productive. What I was recommended this AM is to go for 5.6, have a ubuntu focal armbian going but none of the options I can see make for a 5.6. Can you helbz me finds it?
<JohnDoe2>
ubuntu focal armbian = a machine to run ./build.sh with
<JohnDoe2>
errr ./complie.sh
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<archetech>
install an Ubu 20.04 vm on x86
<JohnDoe2>
yup got that
<archetech>
docs say how to build a kernel or image
<JohnDoe2>
options are for current (5.8) or legacy (4.6)