ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: #ELLIOTTCABLE: Puppy paws patter placidly through the pale passageways ...
<joelteon> I wonder if I'd get in trouble for living here
<joelteon> probably
<joelteon> i don't think there's a shower stall here
<joelteon> huh
<joelteon> ok, I don't think anybody's interesting in this story but nobody else is talking
<micahjohnston> heh
<joelteon> so the back door is a piece of shit, it's one of those sliding ones and it comes off the track easily
<micahjohnston> i read it
<joelteon> i'm like "the back door is never locked"
<joelteon> and she's like "is that why you pulled it off the track? i got burglarized in 2004 to the tune of $15k"
<joelteon> so I think to myself
<joelteon> If you want to stop a burglar, how about you 1. get a back door that needs more effort than a gentle tug to be unlocked
<joelteon> or 2. live in a house that is not 80% glass walls
<joelteon> what the fuck, man
<vil> heh
<joelteon> ok yeah, i guess this is probably the last straw
<purr> <judofyr> elliottcable: what's up with sephr and OMFG, or whatever it was called again?
<purr\ec> [SJS] ELLIOTTCABLE created 54646fd (+3 new commits): https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/SJS/compare/6c150fd137af^...5d88a4f62aef
<purr\ec> SJS/54646fd 54646fd elliottcable: (- meta re) Re-organizing project.
<purr\ec> SJS/54646fd 5d88a4f elliottcable: (- fix comp) Oops, my shebang was sideways.
<purr\ec> SJS/54646fd 6c150fd elliottcable: Lookit me guise I can write a programmin' languige!
<purr\ec> [SJS] ELLIOTTCABLE created Master from 54646fd (+0 new commits): https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/SJS/commits/Master
<purr\ec> [SJS] ELLIOTTCABLE deleted 54646fd at 5d88a4f: https://github.com/ELLIOTTCABLE/SJS/commit/5d88a4f
<ellio> That's the best commit-message I've ever written.
<ellio> “Oops, my shebang was sideways.”
<joelteon> hohw do you make a sideways shebang
<ellio> excellence.
<micahjohnston> ellio: yeah how do you
<vil> that diff is entirely useless
<vil> you need to write a vert-diff
<micahjohnston> tell me a non-c++ language to make games in
<ellio> rust?
<micahjohnston> actually I will probably reject everything you say
<ellio> idk
<vil> um
<ellio> erlang
<micahjohnston> rust has no game/media libraries yet probably
<micahjohnston> :p
<ellio> SJS!
<ellio> SJS.
<ellio> it's client-compatible.
<ellio> you can write games in it that will work across *all* mobile devices,
<ellio> and even in peoples' browsers!
<vil> and only moderately insanity-inducing
<micahjohnston> oh god the photo hadn't loaded when i copypasted
<ellio> moderately
<ellio> compared to, say, Paws
<vil> right
<ellio> SJS is so Rut.
<ellio> It's easy to understand.
<vil> no, it's
<vil> R
<vil> u
<vil> t
* ellio laughs
* ellio hugs vil
<micahjohnston> what's SJS
<ellio> hold on micahjohnston
<vil> micahjohnston: click the diff he linked
<micahjohnston> oh omg
<micahjohnston> sounds fun for games
<micahjohnston> :|
<micahjohnston> so is that a metacircular sjs interpreter?
* ellio laughs
<ellio> no, i'm too lazy for that
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<purr\ec> SJS/Master 5d8f0d6 elliottcable: (meta new) README! And npm-package.json.
<ellio> but the compiler is self-hosting
<vil> hah. I love companies that are publicly opinionated: https://twitter.com/taptaptap/status/344626483949608960
<vil> hey, I got output from libcurl! progress!
<micahjohnston> oh i hadn't looked at interpretr.js, just compiler
<micahjohnston> i may just use fucking c++ and sfml
<micahjohnston> fuck everything
<micahjohnston> I never thought I'd say this
<micahjohnston> but C++ has better tools than Lua for abstraction
<vil> micahjohnston: you could always use Java, it might make you appreciate C++
<micahjohnston> naaaaah
<micahjohnston> i know how it would feel
<micahjohnston> i've written things in java
<micahjohnston> c++ would actually feel better
<micahjohnston> i think
<micahjohnston> (i choose my langauges based on how they feel)
<vil> java makes be want to tear my eyebrows out with a spoon
<ellio> here ya go
<ellio> http://ell.io/$SJS
<ellio> whee
<ellio> er
<ellio> http://ell.io/$SJS#readme
<ellio> lolfuckthat
<purr> lolfuckthat
<ellio> bah
<ellio> stupid anchors
<vil> dammit iTerm, that IS a link
<micahjohnston> ogmomg
<micahjohnston> "... might be easier written in SJS, as the following:"
<micahjohnston> i love you ellio
<ellio> micahjohnston: <3
<ellio> <3 micahjohnston
<purr> Let it be known that ellio hearts micahjohnston.
<ellio> shit
<ellio> -- micahjohnston
<purr> Let it be known that ellio is indifferent to micahjohnston.
<ellio> whatevs
<micahjohnston> hahahah
<micahjohnston> can't have it be known
<ellio> right
<ellio> sekrit
<ellio> D:
<ellio> time to announce this to the world
<micahjohnston> actually love2d+hump may not be so bad
<ellio> I studiously expect retweets, everyone
<micahjohnston> going to make a shameless metroidvania game
<micahjohnston> with a map and everything
<micahjohnston> ugh the thought of using STL collections for a world data structure sickens me
<micahjohnston> ok no C++
<vil> I should work on my Super Awesome Adventure Game some more after I finish my app
<ellio> c'mmon c'mmon make me famous
<ellio> <3
<vil> ellio: elready rtded
<micahjohnston> submit to HN
<ellio> whitequark: retweet! retweet! :D
<micahjohnston> :D
<micahjohnston> AGH WHAT THE FUCK DO I USE TO MAKE GAMES
<ellio> micahjohnston: not my kinda thing. do so?
<micahjohnston> EVERYTHING FUCKING SUCKS
<ellio> then make your own thing to make games with
<micahjohnston> ellio: aight :p
<ellio> have an itch, scratch it
<micahjohnston> ellio: BUT I WANTT O MAKE A GAME RIGHT NOW
<ellio> cure your impulsiveness, and you'll go far. (=
<ellio> patience, young grasshopper.
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: what is the best way to get lots of HN points
<micahjohnston> with a submission
<micahjohnston> ellio: lol i have spent hours making things to make games
<purr> lol
<ellio> there's a nice middle-ground somewhere between “I WANTT O MAKE A GAME RIGHT NOW”, and wasting four years on a dead-end language.
<micahjohnston> it is kind of a problem of mine
<ellio> find it and Be Happy™.
<micahjohnston> like, it's slightly less bad than my problem of not making anything at all ever
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: yeah a submission
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: want to use my account?
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: well I just mean
<micahjohnston> what's the optimal title etc.
<alexgordon> I have like 2000 of them
<micahjohnston> haha i have an account
<alexgordon> thought you might need access to something that's only for VIPs :P
<micahjohnston> does it give biases to people with more karma
<alexgordon> yes
<alexgordon> probably
<alexgordon> the algorithm is secret
<micahjohnston> fuck hn
<alexgordon> :D
<micahjohnston> jesus christ
* ellio laughs
<micahjohnston> ok get the highest-karma account you have
<micahjohnston> and submit with it
<ellio> just *now* realizing that, micahjohnston?
<micahjohnston> ellio: no i'm just repeating
<vil> I follow the link feed, completely ignore the site itself
<micahjohnston> lol
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: want to use my account?
<alexgordon> I don't give a shit anymore
<ellio> same, I follow hn150 or whatever
<micahjohnston> sure lol
<alexgordon> it's a stupid site
<alexgordon> populated by stupid people
<ellio> on Twittar
<micahjohnston> so fucking pretentious
<alexgordon> HN was great before
<alexgordon> but all the smart people have left
<micahjohnston> should i use
<micahjohnston> löve2d
<micahjohnston> or C+++SFML
<micahjohnston> or
<alexgordon> haha
<ellio> just make something and name it micahjohnston
<ellio> all of the people will use it
<ellio> because it is named micahjohnston
<ellio> #elliottgivesstartupadvice
<micahjohnston> haha i'm pretty sure that'd be only you
<ellio> oh
<micahjohnston> and maybe vil
<ellio> but I don't write games
<micahjohnston> well i want to make tempus for games
<ellio> mis-read that
<ellio> popcorn
<joelteon> micahjohnston: use love
<micahjohnston> joelteon: LOVE SUCKS
<vil> just remembered that this exists: http://www.quelsolaar.com/love/
<micahjohnston> omg
<micahjohnston> clojure processing
<micahjohnston> what about that
<micahjohnston> vil: you post that every time
<vil> heh
<micahjohnston> ;p
<vil> I know
<ellio> wat
<ellio> wtf is love
<micahjohnston> löve2d
<micahjohnston> a game engine
<micahjohnston> for lua
<ellio> I know what love2d is
<alexgordon> <+ellio> wtf is love
<vil> baby don't hurt me
* ellio pats vil
<ellio> bye all
<vil> o7
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<Nuck> God why the fuck am I browsing this category of deviantART? This was a horrible idea http://ewelock.deviantart.com/art/thorin-mappinshield-377399790
<Nuck> (nsfw)
<dsamarin> ellio: i try to lift regularly to make sure I build muscle. Also I dislike having a programmers tan so for the summer I try to go outside more
<dsamarin> ellio: exercising is a natural antidepressant lol
<purr> lol
<dsamarin> purr: ikr
<dsamarin> stop being depressed, it's only chemicals
<dsamarin> white goo dreeping down your strema
<dsamarin> you are familiar with chemicals
<Nuck> dsamarin: So instead of a programmer's tan, you do a brogrammer's tan?
<dsamarin> haha yeah
<dsamarin> i suppose
<devyn> ellio: I drink shittons of coffee and soda but I get outside a lot and am vegetarian (and not for moral reasons)
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<sanitypassing> Coffee is overrated! REAL MEN DRINK TEA.
<joelteon> butthole
<joelteon> does anybody use vagrant here
<devyn> sanitypassing: tea is unpatriotic
<joelteon> murica
<devyn> for you, anyway :)
<joelteon> so you guys HAVEN'T used vagrant then
<devyn> what's that again?
<joelteon> an automatic vm building system
<devyn> now why would you do that
<devyn> make a base vm, make images
<joelteon> because it's pretty useful
<joelteon> and it's a lot faster to distribute a single file than a VM image
<devyn> well not really because then your target has to download all of the setup files
<devyn> and if you have lots of targets
<devyn> that's useless
<joelteon> well
<joelteon> ok
<devyn> compress a discard'd virtual hard disk and you'll be fine
<devyn> if net bandwidth is an issue (i.e. deploying from home) then just deploy to one and then have that one deploy to the rest
<joelteon> you can't impress developers
<devyn> no, I'm just too used to people thinking their idea is hot shit and marketing it really well when really it's probably slower than how most people would do it :p
<devyn> rails dev scarred me
<joelteon> rails? really
<devyn> all of these people coming out with “teh omg this fucking rocks because I'm a rockstar programmer and everything I make is great”
<devyn> joelteon: this was back when Rails was the Big Thing™ and had a lot of influence, admittedly, on frameworks of the future
<devyn> when Node became the Big Thing™ we saw the same attiudes (and basically the same people) there
<joelteon> is haskell not like that?
<joelteon> although i can see how it would be faster to distribute an image
<joelteon> vagrant is just a "make them install it themselves" tool
<joelteon> so...yeah
<joelteon> maybe I'll just set up my build slave again
<devyn> joelteon: the worst haskell gets is the endless shitty blog posts on monads
<devyn> you don't see anywhere near the kind of marketing powerhousing for libs there :p
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<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> cycle "blog posts about " ++ "monads"
<devyn> basically
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<devyn> “ohh I finally get monads, I should make a blog post explaining them using an analogy that worked for me!”
<devyn> but that analogy is shitty because while you might get what monads are, you don't get why monads are, and a lot of the rest of the category theory that exists in Haskell
<devyn> and that other knowledge is absolutely necessary before you have any authority to write a monad blog post whatsoever
<devyn> and by that point you should have more interesting things to write about than monads :p
<joelteon> yep
<joelteon> i still don't really get monads
<joelteon> but I know what typechecks
<joelteon> so
<joelteon> i mean there's nothing to "get" really
<joelteon> it's just a typeclass
<devyn> (>>=) :: m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b, return :: a -> m a, and the fact that what happens to combine m with m' is implementation specific is really all you need to know for Haskell
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<joelteon> i don't have a specific mental model of what's going on when monadic actions happen, usually
<joelteon> but
<joelteon> you don't really need to know
<joelteon> sounds...fun
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<dsamarin> gkatsev: OLD
* dsamarin updated his reader app
<gkatsev> lol
<purr> lol
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<devyn> joelteon: so much fucking win
<devyn> gkatsev: lol they're totally aware of that already anyway; it won't do anything
<purr> lol
<purr> <alexgordon> myrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<micahjohnston> -!
<purr> micahjohnston: stop fucking doing that
<devyn> micahjohnston: ಠ_ಠ
<devyn> -bot
<purr> devyn: elliottcable is a bot + + + + + does the robot <http://pawschan.tumblr.com/post/4967461441/bot>
<devyn> -diaptoval
<purr> devyn: diaptoval, diaptoval forever
<devyn> I'm studying and I just want to fucking sleep
<devyn> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>____________________________>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<purr> <prophile> back in my day we would use a couple of wires and tap rhythmically on pins of the cpu to do our work
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<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<vil> mornin'
<ellio> sup
<vil> my app does things now
<alexgordon> sup ellio
<alexgordon> INSTALLING MAVERICKS
<vil> WANT
<whitequark> hey ellio
<ellio> hi guys
<whitequark> how do i get bitcoins in exchange of something sane? paypal, visa, etc
<whitequark> (yes I know why is it hard)
<ellio> uh, you can't do so
<ellio> which is a bitch is a bitch
<whitequark> so you don't know a way either
<ellio> in the U.S., you've got Coinbase, for bank accounts
<whitequark> fuck U.S.
<ellio> EU, bank transfer to mtGOX
<ellio> but you're never going to be able to do it for reversible money supply, like credit or paypal
<whitequark> hm
<whitequark> in fact I just found a way
<whitequark> a russian service which uses another russian service as an one-way proxy
<whitequark> they take 6% though
<ellio> jesus
<ellio> fuckin' russians
<ellio> ruining everything with their one-way-ness and proxy-ness and six-percent-ness
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> i fucking hate banks
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<whitequark> so I changed my phone number, can I change that over the phone? FUCK NO, GO TO THE OFFICE YOU FUCKER
<whitequark> so they have an app which allows you to confirm transactions without SMS. can I use that th confirm 3D-secure? FUCK NO, GOTTA HAVE A FUCKING MOBILE PHONE
<whitequark> mind you this is a good bank. others are much worse
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<purr> <judofyr> TIL alexgordon learns through his anus
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<ellio> lol whitequark
<purr> lol
<whitequark> not funny :(
<ELLIOTTCABLE> [6~[6~ghihi
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fucking Mavericks download is making irc unusable
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 3.4o GB out of 4.97 GB
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 1hr 48m left, supposedly. I'm skeptical.
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: locks was just saying that he heard from twitter that you can't update to the GM
<alexgordon> if you install mavericks
<alexgordon> not sure if I believe that
<vil> wasn't that the case with Lion?
<alexgordon> vil: nope
<vil> huh. I thought I remembered that
<alexgordon> for lion I was using the GM until ML came out :P
<vil> haha
<alexgordon> never "upgraded" to the app store version, because it was the same
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> I mean I updated to 10.7.1 etc
<alexgordon> but I never installed it from the app store, insofar as I used the redeem codes
<joelteon> -!
<purr> joelteon: stop fucking doing that
<vil> mornign joelteon
<joelteon> hi vil
<whitequark> -!
<purr> whitequark: stop fucking doing that
<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<ellio> lol
<ellio> that factoid is *so* much better out of context
* ellio grins
<ellio> purr is priceless. :3
<vil> ellio: enjoy your cheerios
<ellio> actually, I'd sell his body for approximately $US 1,500. Any takers?
<vil> well, seeing as I have access to the source
<vil> I'll pass
<vil> fuck yeah, keychain integration is working
<vil> soon I will take over the world
<joelteon> my developer thing still hasn't come
<joelteon> spectacular
<vil> isn't it beautiful? http://cl.ly/Paxq/image.jpg
<joelteon> yeah I like the emoticons
<vil> haha
<vil> couldn't resist
<joelteon> is that a I or a |
<vil> bar
<joelteon> hmm
<vil> progress is boring, hence bored face
<joelteon> yeah it looks like an i
<joelteon> usually the I is equidistant from the :
<vil> I tried to change the font, but IB breaks it and I was too lazy to go the long route
<joelteon> what are you speaking of, willis
<joelteon> it's easy to change a font with interface builder
<vil> you would think
<vil> just pull up the font panel
<vil> but it reverts when you actually write text into it
<vil> it's a really bizarre implementation
<vil> you have to use NSAttributedString to store the data if you want it to work, and I don't care that much for a temporary app
<joelteon> you're doing it wrong
<vil> probably
<vil> still not worth the effort
<joelteon> heh
<vil> none of what you see here is the final app
<joelteon> hhheh
<joelteon> what does it do
<vil> it's a test harness for the uploader plugins
<vil> and to work out encapsulation and such so I don't make a mess of the final product
<joelteon> i see
<vil> basically, I haven't used Cocoa in a while, so I wanted a playground to practice in
<vil> hence JundtionBox
<vil> it'll be useful later though, to separate brokenness in the actual UI to brokenness in the plugins
<vil> *from
<joelteon> more developers should design user interfaces
<joelteon> lol
<purr> lol
<vil> oh, I haven't put any effort into this
<vil> the final one will be gorgeous, trust me
<vil> it's had the luxury of going through three iterations already, thanks to this being the second attempt at this app
<joelteon> but the fact that it has emoticons in it
<joelteon> that's a nice personal touch
<joelteon> have you seen the game trailer for the division?
<vil> no
<joelteon> uh, the gameplay, actually
<joelteon> well it's a group of people talking to each other over the network
<joelteon> but I thought at first it was the actual voice acting
<joelteon> and I was like "wow, this is GREAT acting"
<joelteon> and then I realized it was real people
<joelteon> anyway...I don't remember what point I was making
<joelteon> but it looks like a cool game
<joelteon> y
<joelteon> whoops
<ellio> ho
<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<joelteon> mmmm
<joelteon> nothing like removing gui packages
<joelteon> that's 1.2GB free
<vil> ellio: hey
<ellio> wtf are you writing, vil
<vil> ellio: droplr + your own server
<vil> ellio: this is a temporary front-end
<ellio> oh lol yeah that
<purr> lol
<ellio> The http://darkpatterns.org/ library is excellent
<joelteon> devyn: one helpful thing vagrant DOES do
<ellio> I'm totes gonna use these
<joelteon> is make shared folders and networking insanely easy
<joelteon> yeah, that's actually kinda worth it
<micahjohnston> hiu
<micahjohnston> hi
<purr> micahjohnston: hi!
<joelteon> FUCK IT
<joelteon> we'll do it live
<micahjohnston> joelteon: hahaha voice acting
<vil> hi micahjohnston
<micahjohnston> hi
<purr> micahjohnston: hi!
<micahjohnston> locks not being here reminds me of my real life friends
<micahjohnston> there's always some combination of them who can't simultaneously hang out
<micahjohnston> because they are mad at each other
* ellio laughs
<ellio> that's life
<ellio> Jenna talked to me today
<ellio> I felt good about it
* ellio goes to get more OJcheerios
<vil> ellio: wait. you put the orange juice ON the cheerios?
<micahjohnston> haha
<micahjohnston> ellio: jenna is pretty cool seeming
<ellio> I don't consume milk.
<vil> actually that doesn't surprise me that much
<ellio> Jenna's *very* you, micahjohnston
<micahjohnston> lactose intolerant?
<vil> oh, really?
<ellio> except making-physical-things instead of making-games.
<micahjohnston> and she sometimes makes games i think
<micahjohnston> right?
<micahjohnston> i really want to make physical things but have no money to buy physical things haha
<vil> yep
<joelteon> micahjohnston:
<joelteon> it was pretty good
<micahjohnston> my dream is to make a modular synth with like
<micahjohnston> lots of little modules
<micahjohnston> that are cheap
<micahjohnston> that you connect in a graph on the floor
<micahjohnston> gtg
<vil> o7
<joelteon> bye
<ellio> awwww
<ellio> bye
<ellio> micahjohnston: I've got a friend who did, or kinda did, exactly that. something like that. idk. idk music.
<ellio> micahjohnston: @ltackett. He's kinda a douche, nowadays.
<ellio> UGH IT'S UP TO TWO HOURS AND FORTY-FIVE MINUTES
<ellio> I HATE YOU, PENTHOUSE INTERNET
<ellio> Oh my god, this is a real thing
<ellio> I assumed it would be an Onion article.
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<ellio> worst wheely starchedly Q petite triobol etiolize hemichordate Davidian romancelike
<ellio> wow, I *never* get single letters outta that thing
<joelteon> what is it
<ellio> gshuf -n10 /usr/share/dict/words | tr '\n' ' '
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<vil> well hello
<joelteon> gshuf
<joelteon> hey I made a program in haskell that does that
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* ellio waves to dastels
<dastels> Hey
<joelteon> pick 10 /usr/share/dict/words
<ellio> I'm probably gonna try to hook up with the vagina'd-having-one for lunch, but then I'm free for the rest of the afternoon
<joelteon> it uses a
<joelteon> i think it uses a hashmap
<joelteon> no, it's like
<joelteon> oh what is it called
<ellio> Can't dive into new toys today, though; the *fucking terrible* internet at her penthouse is glacially slow
<joelteon> yeah, it uses a heap
<joelteon> duh, how couldn't i think of that
<ellio> I don't have Xcode5 yet, though I've got iOS7-iPhone5
<joelteon> I STILL don't have my developer account
* ellio joelteon: do you just want to use mine? >,<
<joelteon> yeah just give me the download link
<joelteon> I already paid for it
<joelteon> fucking christ
<ellio> doesn't work that way
<ellio> have to add your phone to the system
<joelteon> TOO BAD
<joelteon> oh
<ellio> BEST NON-ONION HEADLINE
<ellio> “Eight-month erection leads to malpractice lawsuit by truck driver”
<ellio> o7 jdhartley
<joelteon> IS PENDING AND MAY TAKE UP TO 24 HOURS TO PROCESS
<ellio> dastels: +1 (919) 636-4204, iMessage me; I'mma hop in the shower. I'll Blue-Line up thattaway this afternoon sometime. Even if jdhartley is busy, I need to pop in and at least say *hi* before I jet out of town again
<alexgordon> wat
<dastels> ellio: I'm in San Francisco all week... next week sometime?
<ellio> dastels: I totes mis-read your tweet
<ellio> dastels: I'm leaving Friday; but you definitely need to hook up with the StageBloc guys. They're great fun, even if they *are* mostly PHP devs. ;)
<ellio> dastels: personally, I'll be back in town sometime within the next two months. Headed to the west-coast to traipse around a little.
<dastels> ellio: traipsing around the west-coast is not to be missed.
<jdhartley> (ps, i am not really a php dev that much really)
<ellio> dastels: I spend a lot of time travellijg
<ellio> have friends all over
<ellio> this time, planning to hit up Seattle and Portland peeps
<ellio> and maybe a trip to SF, though I don't ever seem to manage to hook up with any of the unfortunately-large number of people I know in the Bay Area
<purr> <alexgordon> python's GC, singlehandedly, proves that capitalism is necessary for society
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<ellio> lolwat, alexgordon
<purr> lolwat
<joelteon> haha
<joelteon> something something something python
<joelteon> i don't know why people use all that academic crap like garbage collection and classes
<joelteon> C is way faster
<joelteon> those people don't even live in the real world
* ellio laughs
<whitequark> ALGOL 60
<joelteon> yeah, algol works too
<joelteon> honestly, I'd just write raw assembly
<ellio> peace bitches
<joelteon> or machine code
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<ellio>
<whitequark> not sure if trolling
<joelteon> C-style syntax is an impractical abstract formalization
<whitequark> ellio: <?>
<ellio> how is there not a fucking emoji for peace
<ellio> ☮
<whitequark> hah
<whitequark> excellent
<joelteon> nice
<joelteon> it looks like the mercedes benz logo
<joelteon> i want a shirt that says "i demand [mercedes logo]"
<joelteon> then if it works
<joelteon> i win either way
* whitequark ticks the [x] Streaming download
<whitequark> in his patched transmission-qt
<whitequark> fucking awesome.
<joelteon> qt is such an impractical name
<whitequark> this is probably the best 100-line patch I ever wrote
<joelteon> ur a qt
<whitequark> possibly the best anything I did with software
<whitequark> I'm rather impatient.
<micahjohnston> hi back
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<whitequark> micahjohnston: hi
<micahjohnston> hi whitequark
<micahjohnston> how about those programming languages
<micahjohnston> how about them
<whitequark> still reading the vau calculus article
<whitequark> fuck, it's so big
<joelteon> whitequark: wat.
<purr> beep.
<micahjohnston> lol
<purr> lol
<vil> I have that saved to read at some point
<vil> might even happen eventually :D
<joelteon> >_>
<joelteon> I joined #vagrant but channel names in my weechat are limited to three characters
<joelteon> so it just says "#vag"
<vil> ♪ All The Love in the World
<purr> vil is listening to “All the Love in the World”, by Nine Inch Nails
<sanitypassing> devyn: patriotism is overrated, and tea is delicious.
<micahjohnston> i like tea
<gkatsev> tea is delicious
<sanitypassing> <3.
<micahjohnston> there are so so many varieties of it lol
<purr> lol
<gkatsev> you should try hojicha, if you can find it
<sanitypassing> roasted green tea?
<gkatsev> yeah
<gkatsev> it is quite delicious
<sanitypassing> hmm, that sounds interesting.
<sanitypassing> I'm going to have to try to find some.
<gkatsev> I had it at the Japanese Zen Garden in golden gate park
<gkatsev> huh, since when does adagio have it? http://www.adagio.com/green/hojicha.html
<gkatsev> I know I looked a few months ago and they did not have it
<sanitypassing> is their tea any good?
<sanitypassing> I've been considering ordering from them
<gkatsev> how the hell did I miss all of that
<gkatsev> yeah, adagio is ok. It isn't necessarily the cheapest, though, fwiw.
<gkatsev> another good site is davidstea
<sanitypassing> I don't necessarily mind paying for tea if it's good tea.
<gkatsev> yeah, but sometimes you can find the same quality for cheaper, so, why not?
<sanitypassing> eh, fair enough
<sanitypassing> I really need to get some sort of infuser though
<gkatsev> another good one is hunan black tea
<gkatsev> sanitypassing: just make sure to *not* use that mesh basket thing with the teapot.
<gkatsev> you can use it to filter out the leaves when you're pouring, though
<sanitypassing> what's wrong with the mesh basket?
<gkatsev> it constricts the tea leaves too much
<sanitypassing> oh I see
<sanitypassing> so I should just let the tea sit in the water, without the basket?
<gkatsev> yep
<sanitypassing> alright
<sanitypassing> and that's a pretty damn cheap pot too.
<sanitypassing> I should get it...
<gkatsev> you could probably find cheaper ones
<gkatsev> that is literally the first item for me on amazon
<gkatsev> lol
<purr> lol
<sanitypassing> yeah, but build quality and all that
<sanitypassing> I don't want something cheap
<gkatsev> yeah, just saying :P
<gkatsev> for a first item, it's decent
<gkatsev> probably
<sanitypassing> heh.
<gkatsev> anyway, brb
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<whitequark> I wonder, why exactly are dragons in GoT look rendered
<whitequark> I'm quite sure it is possible to make them look as real as you'd ever want.
<whitequark> they didn't. why?
<whitequark> in unrelated news
<micahjohnston> whitequark: wait what lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> suddenly alexgordon makes sense
<whitequark> oh of course alexgordon makes sense
<whitequark> if he never made any sense, he would be useful: you could look at what he says and do the opposite
<whitequark> noooo, the sense in his ramblings is distributed as a Gaussian
<gkatsev> whitequark: maybe uncanny valley stuff? idk
<whitequark> gkatsev: same thoughts
<whitequark> but not really sure.
<whitequark> that would imply they can't make them *good enough*
<whitequark> a guess which looks more realistic to me is:
<gkatsev> also, I didn't like that in the TV show the dragons eat raw meat
<joelteon> what d othey eat in the books
<joelteon> *do they
<whitequark> er, they cook it before?
<gkatsev> in the book they had a whole thing about how they wouldn't it
<joelteon> heh
<gkatsev> until she realizes they need it to be cooked first
<joelteon> dude i am such a dragon fanboy
<joelteon> like
<whitequark> ah I got it
<joelteon> it's pretty sad
<whitequark> well
<gkatsev> which is when she also remembers how to say fire and have them cook the meat
<whitequark> you've gotta compress those seven tomes somewhat
<joelteon> well I don't think game of thrones is running short on time
<gkatsev> yeah, but at least have them like breath fire on the meat before eating in that scene where they were eating the raw meat
<whitequark> gkatsev: I think she did?
<whitequark> iirc
<gkatsev> joelteon: well, it seems like they don't plan on having a billion series
<gkatsev> whitequark: not in the scene a few episodes ago
<whitequark> oh ok
<joelteon> well
<whitequark> they're on fourth season and third book
<purr> <Nuck> gqbrielle: What's ladyprison, hobbits?
<joelteon> i would pay all my money for a dragon
<whitequark> joelteon: plot twist: you don't have any?
<gkatsev> um... they'll probably do the rest of book 3 and start on book 4 in the next season
<joelteon> whitequark: i don't hahve any
<joelteon> have
<joelteon> what's wrong with my keyboard?
<joelteon> genuinely curious
<gkatsev> it's haunted
<joelteon> hauhnted
<whitequark> gkatsev: you read the books?
<whitequark> I didn't (yet? not sure, never read that much fiction in english before)
<gkatsev> I did
<whitequark> I wonder if GRRM will finish the books
<whitequark> before the TV series
<gkatsev> yes
<whitequark> looking at his schedule... no?
<gkatsev> he will finish the books before the TV show gets to the part of his books
<gkatsev> the question is whether the TV show will span all the books
<gkatsev> or whether they will create a movie for the conclusion or what exactly
<purr> <gqbrielle> not really, you just poker face a couple times and there you are. gaga, gaga everywhere.
<gkatsev> purr: shut up
<whitequark> ~five years per book. last in 2011. so, next in 2016. TV show currently finished 3rd.
<whitequark> about one season per year
<whitequark> so, it depends on how much seasons per book they do.
<joelteon> i wonder if i should start reading ASOIAF
<joelteon> it sounds pretty good
<whitequark> >Martin is confident he will have published at least The Winds of Winter before the TV series overtakes him.[
<gkatsev> whitequark: nah, it isn't going to be exactly that.
<whitequark> do american shows have anime-style filler episodes?
<micahjohnston> hey guys want to discuss language design?
<joelteon> what's that?
<micahjohnston> whitequark: like monster-of-the-week ones or like everyone is in costume and acting out something weird and next episode it goes back to normal
<micahjohnston> what exactly do you mean
<vil> and yes on both counts, depending on the show
<whitequark> micahjohnston: just a season of something vaguely related to the theme but not on the main plot
<whitequark> usually with abundance of tits but it's not like GoT has a shortage of them
<micahjohnston> joelteon: it makes me sad to read a lot
<micahjohnston> like
<micahjohnston> grrm does not allow nice things to happen
<micahjohnston> :p
<micahjohnston> but it is very very hardcore
<whitequark> micahjohnston: you spoiled child
<micahjohnston> one of the most fully realized, best written things i've read
<whitequark> spoiled by the unrealistic fantasy, of course.
<micahjohnston> haven't read very far yet though
<micahjohnston> whitequark: dystopia /= realistic ;p
<micahjohnston> but yeah
<gkatsev> whitequark: american shows areentirely anime-style filler episodes :P
<vil> haha
<whitequark> micahjohnston: how is it dystopia?
<whitequark> like
<whitequark> what we have around us IS dystopia
<whitequark> something something nsa
<micahjohnston> lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> grrm's books are not that far from the actual middle ages, if you forgive some artistic license
<micahjohnston> yeah i get it, hence the wink/tongue face lol
<micahjohnston> but ye4ah
<whitequark> i wonder
<micahjohnston> i am typing like a fool today
<whitequark> well whatever
<joelteon> ok
<joelteon> micahjohnston: i'll read it then
<micahjohnston> you may also enjoy books by brandon sanderson
<micahjohnston> like mistborn and the way of kings
<micahjohnston> if you like grrm
<gkatsev> brandon sanderson writes so much
<whitequark> more than zelazny?
<joelteon> ooh
<joelteon> I have some zelazny
<whitequark> my dad has quite a bit
<gkatsev> whitequark: um... idk if more or not
<whitequark> i think the books numbered up to 110's
<gkatsev> whitequark: but sanderson still has been writing a lot
<whitequark> a bookcase full of zelazny
<gkatsev> I've recently read The Amber Chronicles. Great series
<whitequark> kinda
<joelteon> yeah those are pretty good
<whitequark> I like it
<joelteon> I didn't get through the last book
<gkatsev> last book being 10 or 5?
<whitequark> it goes full-on insane
<gkatsev> the merlyn cycle is definitely weirder than the corwin cycle.
* whitequark only read The Amber Chronicles and Lord of Light
<micahjohnston> gkatsev: yeah he pumps out like 500k words a month
<whitequark> didn't get the latter
<joelteon> oh, wait
<gkatsev> Also, I can't believe that they got someone to write The Oberon cycle >.<
<joelteon> never mind
<joelteon> i only got to book 4 of the corwin cycle
<micahjohnston> also the way of kings is 1000 pages and it's got a 10 book series planned
<joelteon> I really didn't follow it very well
<micahjohnston> and mistborn has two more trilogies planned
<micahjohnston> :P
<whitequark> "Guard us from the wolf and she-wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so will be good for us to pass"
<whitequark> all that remains
<gkatsev> (especially since it is known that zelazy did *not* want anyone else mucking around in his universe)
<whitequark> that quote is like burned in my brain
<gkatsev> sanderson has had like 2-3 books come out every year since 2007 and had a book each in 05 and 06
<whitequark> also; discworld
<whitequark> he writes a LOT, yet the quality doesn't suffer
<whitequark> how does he manage to do that
<micahjohnston> to design a language or write something
<micahjohnston> i am now indecisive
<whitequark> micahjohnston: don't be so dependent on activities, wishes and opinion of others
<gkatsev> whitequark: yeah, though, unlikely we'll see any more discworld from him. His daughter is going to take over, though, it seems to make a tv series or something rather than really continue the novels
<vil> I started writing a document describing a time-manipulation device that could serve as backstory for a sci-fi thing
<whitequark> gkatsev: why not? alzheimer?
<gkatsev> yeah
<whitequark> I think he didn't stop writing?
<gkatsev> whitequark: also, it's probably because some of the discworld books make sub-series in their own right that it hasn't really suffered
<gkatsev> in fact, it has probably improved since the first discworld book
<whitequark> gkatsev: absolutely
<whitequark> i'd say he got serious from 10th onwards
<gkatsev> I dont think he will ever stop writing until he is incapable of doing it. But I'm not sure he'll be necessarily writing discworld.
<micahjohnston> vil: hm what like
<vil> hang on, will upload
<whitequark> gkatsev: yeah
<vil> micahjohnston: I changed style half-way through and haven't fixed the top yet, so it's a bit rough
<vil> not done, either
<micahjohnston> probably my favorite brandon sanderson book is the standalone mistborn book hundreds of years after the trilogy
<vil> but I like the concept
<micahjohnston> the alloy of law
<micahjohnston> vil: you reminded me of it
<vil> ?
<whitequark> duh
<micahjohnston> because there was some ability to like
<micahjohnston> make bubbles in which time is slowed/sped up
<whitequark> was about to recommend some nice fiction but it was likely not translated to english
<vil> ah
<whitequark> :/
<vil> crap
<gkatsev> whitequark: what's your native language?
<vil> I just realized that I forgot to `fossil add` some files two commits ago
<vil> how to fix
<whitequark> gkatsev: russian
<purr> <eboy> Ill rue the day nuck sends me a photo of his genitals
<gkatsev> ah, cool
<whitequark> well, it's first
* gkatsev knows some russian
<whitequark> I'm not sure which is my native, now
<micahjohnston> there was really cool stuff about interacting with the bubbles' boundaries
<gkatsev> whitequark: heh
<whitequark> half of my thoughts are in english for some weird reason
<micahjohnston> for instance bullets would veer off wildly kind of like refraction
<whitequark> and I definitely read/write more of it for years already
<micahjohnston> when the front half is outside the bubble
<gkatsev> yeah, i've forgotten a lot of hebrew and russian since moving to the US
<vil> micahjohnston: interesting. I haven't quite worked out what happens with mine yet
<vil> currently considering a straight-on pass through, haven't even considered a shearing effect
<micahjohnston> it'd cause extreme refraction of light etc. i just realized
<vil> yeah, because as the light passes through, it to gets slowed or sped up
<micahjohnston> depending on how "sharp" the boundary is i guess
<micahjohnston> and that's exactly what causes refraction
<micahjohnston> passing from a medium to a different one with a different propagation speed
<vil> oh good point
<vil> neat
<vil> I need to write more as soon as I get this commit un-mungled
<gkatsev> whitequark: I have Roadside Picnic queued up to read. Or rather, listen. I'll try and see if I can understand the russian audiobook
<whitequark> gkatsev: oh, Strugatsky
<gkatsev> yeah
<whitequark> "Monday begins at the saturday" is lovely
<gkatsev> since last year, they released a new english translation
<gkatsev> one that doesn't suck
<whitequark> (idk if they translated it this way)
<gkatsev> but since I can understand russian, i'll try the russian audiobook first
<vil> micahjohnston: does the explanation for being unable to encase itself in a bubble make sense? or did I miss anything there?
<micahjohnston> vil: hm it seemed handwavy
<micahjohnston> idk though
<vil> that's what I was worried about
<vil> I want to go more in-depth
<micahjohnston> i think it would have like circular effects in a way but first of all, you need to determine like
<vil> also on HOW exactly the effect is acheived
<micahjohnston> is it possible to affect itself?
<micahjohnston> yeah
<whitequark> gkatsev: and Tale of the Troika
<micahjohnston> and if it is then figure out what kind of feedback would occur
<whitequark> though in different sense
<whitequark> the latter can compete with Kafka's The Castle
<vil> I figured it would keep accelerating the change, because the machine is measuring the change in speed relative to its own position in space
<vil> hence eventually nearing infinity
<vil> but the explanation of the slowing of molecules worries me the most, that needs to have the most solid explanation
<vil> and I'm not sure it's correct
<micahjohnston> well for instancfe
<micahjohnston> if it's slowing itself down
<micahjohnston> then maybe when it gets slowed down its effect lessens
<whitequark> let's talk about PLT
<vil> micahjohnston: how come?
<whitequark> what was a neat PL idea you've seen last?
<vil> if its OTPM is always one, wouldn't it just keep trying to adjust it? from its point of view, it would be failing to change anything, and thus it would continue
<micahjohnston> well
<micahjohnston> idk you can basically choose what you want
<micahjohnston> because it's not an actual working machine :p
<vil> I know, but I really enjoy the discussion around it :D
<micahjohnston> yeah i'm just saying maybe it'd have negative feedback
<micahjohnston> when slowing down itself
<micahjohnston> and maybe positive when speeding up
<micahjohnston> although consider power usage
<micahjohnston> maybe when speeding up it is positive feedback, but it uses gallons of power and burns out once it can't anymore
<vil> mmm, god point
<vil> *good
<vil> hadn't considered power source yet
<vil> so it would basically instantly burn itself out
<vil> going either way
<vil> I kind of like that better, actually, from a logical stance
<vil> was hoping to use a machine trapped by itself as a plot point, though. I'll have to find another way of creating a feedback loop
<vil> speaking of sci-fi, Ra just updated again. I think some of you guys would really enjoy it: http://qntm.org/ra
<micahjohnston> vil: well no slowing down i think it would just like turn off, or stick at the same level
<micahjohnston> I would say
<micahjohnston> idk though
<micahjohnston> so slowing down could trap it actually
<vil> hmmm, yeah, since it would ostensibly be burning fuel even more slowly
<vil> but at the same time using more to sustain it
<vil> that's an interesting paradox there
<micahjohnston> oh wow hm
<vil> so even if it ran out "instantly" inside the bubble, it would take so long to catch up to outside again, that it's trapped?
<vil> hmmm
<vil> because by the time it instantly runs out of fuel, it's already slowed time to somewhere near -infinity
<vil> er, zero, I guess
<vil> dunno how I'm measuring that for sure yet
<vil> god, this bends my brain
<micahjohnston> whitequark: i am unsure what to do with tempus
<vil> from inside the bubble, you're walking to the edge to escape, and it takes a few seconds. from outside, you can never escape
<joelteon> wait
<micahjohnston> everything outside would be a blur
<vil> yep
<joelteon> are you guys talkinga bout time bubbles
<joelteon> talking about
<vil> probably infinitely bright, actually
<joelteon>
<vil> since the light would build up on the barrier
<vil> joelteon: yep
<joelteon> that would suck
<vil> joelteon: here: files.unsquared.co/RTFDE-report.txt
<whitequark> basically
<joelteon> i can't tell if that makes sense or not
<whitequark> it doesn't make sense to talk about machines slowing down time
<joelteon> what if you were half in the bubble and halfo ut?
<vil> joelteon: don't know yet
<vil> I'm sure it would hurt, though
<vil> whitequark: doesn't matter if it makes sense, it's fun as hell
<joelteon> my brain hurts
<vil> joelteon: yep
<vil> and that's only the first draft
<vil> good lord I suck at version control
<gkatsev> http://clb.demon.fi/html5scummvm/samnmax/samnmax.html sam and max in the browser
<vil> and Monkey Island!
<gkatsev> yes
<gkatsev> sam and max isn't working for me
<vil> I tried to visit that from Twitter yesterday, it was down from the traffic
<vil> might still be having issues
<gkatsev> nah, it starts loading
<gkatsev> but then it has problems
<vil> hmm
<whitequark> siiiigh, another emscripten crap
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<gkatsev> lol
<purr> lol
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<PragCypher> awesome
<whitequark> scummvm? yes it is
<gkatsev> why is the skype app such a piece of shit?
<gkatsev> it's using up 20% CPU just fucking sitting there.
<joelteon> because microsoft made it
<gkatsev> lol
<purr> lol
<gkatsev> it was a piece of shit since before microsoft even bought them, so... i'm not sure it applies here
<joelteon> well
<joelteon> yeah, I don't know
<joelteon> the API only started being broken once microsoft acquired them
<joelteon> but it was pretty bad before that
<gkatsev> the API still requires skype to be installed and running.
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> but at least it worked then
<joelteon> meh
<gkatsev> the APIs should be talking to the servers directly or something. So, I can close skype :/
<gkatsev> ugh
<joelteon> yeah but then you wouldn't be constantly reminded of its presence
<gkatsev> lol
<ellio> hi!
<micahjohnston> hi ellio!
<ellio> I'm at a coffee-shop with @jdhartley and @_dskuza
<micahjohnston> neat
<ellio> and I immediately wiped David's computer.
<ellio> trying to help him fix his homebrew install.
<ellio> now, it's super-awkward.
<ellio> they came here to learn from me, but now I feel like an incompetent idiot. ;_;
<joelteon> you are an incompetent idiot
<ellio> ಠ_ಠ
<ellio> I'll kick you in the monads, otters
<joelteon> ಠ_ಠ
<joelteon> ouch my groin
<micahjohnston> wait is joelteon otters
<joelteon> y-yes
<gkatsev> joelteon: you've decided to change your nick like eboy and sephr?
<joelteon> yeah
<whitequark> who are eboy and sephr?
<joelteon> it's good because my last name starts with T
<whitequark> now
<joelteon> so
<joelteon> joel-t-on
<gkatsev> whitequark: dsamarin and eligrey respectively
<whitequark> hah no clue either way
<whitequark> oh wait
<whitequark> I'm dumb.
<gkatsev> lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> gkatsev: who r u
<joelteon> he's gkatsev
<joelteon> he's been gkatsev since the dawn of time
<gkatsev> yes
<gkatsev> it's true
<whitequark> joelteon: did u know him since the dawn of time
<whitequark> because u r not dat old
<eligrey> -sephr
<purr> eligrey: http://sephr.com
<joelteon> whitequark: that's what /she/ said
<eligrey> which redirs to eligrey.com
<eligrey> -eligrey
<whitequark> eligrey: why the fuck did you change your nick?
<eligrey> -learn eligrey = http://eligrey.com/about
<purr> eligrey: Learned `eligrey`.
<ellio> wat fuck
<eligrey> -learn sephr = http://sephr.com/about
<purr> eligrey: Learned `sephr`.
<gkatsev> whitequark: he decided to be like me and have a nick that's based on his name
<whitequark> I see
<ellio> everybody's been fucking changing their nick
<eligrey> whitequark: did you prefer sephr?
<whitequark> eligrey: I *knew* who sephr was
<whitequark> now I have no idea who you are
<whitequark> I'll forget it after ten minutes.
<whitequark> more specifically, eligrey-related memories and sephr-related memories will *never* be bound in my mind.
<eligrey> ellio: you're even worse
<eligrey> ellio, elliottcable, ELLIOTTCABLE
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<eligrey> etc.
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<whitequark> I'm not going to change my nick.
<gkatsev> eligrey: also ec
<eligrey> yeah
<gkatsev> and others
<eligrey> not to mention purr
<eligrey> he talks through it so often that it counts as him
<ellio> me? what?
<ellio> eligrey: I['ve never *changed*
<ellio> I've used the same nicks since the dawn of time
<eligrey> yeah but youre never one nick
<vil> "and ellio said LET THERE BE IRC"
<joelteon> and there wasn't
<ellio> vil: wat.
<purr> beep.
<eligrey> and ELLIOTTCABLE is arguably a change
<joelteon> shemale on female is just straight sex with an extra pair of tits, right?
<vil> little known fact: IRC was standardized before the speed of light
<gkatsev> joelteon: um... why are you asking?
<joelteon> just curious
<gkatsev> do I even want to know?
<vil> because Nuck isn't around, so someone has to?
<whitequark> joelteon: male on female can also have an extra pair of tits
<joelteon> yeah
<whitequark> depending on your definition of "tits"
<joelteon> depending on how fat they are
<whitequark> precise margin?
<whitequark> also there are congenital abnormalities such as three pairs
<whitequark> imagine if two such people are engaging in an act
<vil> and suddenly we were discussing this in depth
<whitequark> tits:dicks = 6:1
<joelteon> two people with two pairs of breasts
<ellio> elliottcable has always been around
<whitequark> or 12:1 if you don't count them in pairs
<ellio> and I've had a variety of other nicks, that I've used for ages
<joelteon> two people with two vaginas and two penises total
<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<ellio> vil: do you have access to the quote-log?
<ellio> that thing about extra pair of tits, needs to go on there.
<ellio> offf-topic a little bit, guise
<ellio> the topic is dicks
<ellio> you are discussing tits
<ellio> fail
<ellio> → #elliottcable-tits
<joelteon>
<vil> ellio: how much of it?
* ellio
<gkatsev> wow, I can't believe how much skype was slowing down my machine. Such a piece of shit.
<joelteon> haha
<ellio> ick
<ellio> I feel terrible
<joelteon> gkatsev: I once changed my home dir and relaunched skype, put it in my backpack and went home
<joelteon> when I took my laptop out it was hot to the touch
<joelteon> turns out Skype was using 100% of two cores
<gkatsev> was just going to ask if the screen melted
* ellio laughs
<ellio> skype.
<ellio> why.
<joelteon> no, thank god
<gkatsev> yeah, skype was running 20% cpu for no fucking reason.
<audy> joelteon HD shredding like crazy
<gkatsev> and it was the second most memory hungry program on my machine behind firefox
<joelteon> yeah who's audy
<audy> just audy
<gkatsev> (or well, also chrome if you combine all the chrome processes)
<joelteon> here's mine http://puu.sh/3egPV.png
<audy> does skype still play that sound from Home Improvement when you launch it?
<joelteon> yeah
<gkatsev> 5% 900MB firefox,20% 500MB skype, 2% 260MB iterm, 1% 200MB Google Chrome (cpu, memory, name)
<gkatsev> I killed skype and everything is the same except no skype and the OS runs much better
<ellio> vil, fail
<ellio> remove the timestamps >,<
<vil> ellio: already did, realized as soon as I hit the button
<ellio> already fixed
<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<eligrey> i want my programs to use as much ram as possible
<ellio> hi
<purr> ellio: hi!
<eligrey> i hate when theyre only using like 500MB ram and 10GB cache
<eligrey> instead of 11GB of ram
<ellio> pff eligrey's code wouldn't make a dent in Stephanie
<gkatsev> eligrey: but why is skype using up so much ram and so much CPU while just sitting there?
<eligrey> its not like i bought 32GB of ram for my programs to piss on
<ellio> what should I name my next Mac Pro? :)
<eligrey> gkatsev: idk i dont use skype
<eligrey> its so insecure
<eligrey> just use that new thing based off mumble that i'm going to make with gothalice
<gkatsev> and you use irc?
<eligrey> that thing that doesnt exist yet
<eligrey> gkatsev: until it exists just use secure irc + mumble
<eligrey> both support client certs
<eligrey> and forced encryption
<ellio> <3 Mumble
<purr> Let it be known that ellio hearts Mumble.
<eligrey> diffie huffman and elliptic curves are used in mumble
<eligrey> -mumble
<purr> eligrey: We don't use Mumble for voice-chat! Talk to us: mumble://ell.io/ (Download the client for Mac, Linux, or PC at http://mumble.sourceforge.net/)
<gkatsev> don't? what?
<eligrey> don't what?
<eligrey> ellio: your mumble server is down
<ellio> *You* think it is.
<ellio> ;)
<ellio> I know you're all secretly the NSA. ;)
<gkatsev> eligrey: "we don't use mumble for voice-chat"
<eligrey> i know it's down as i cant even get a ping measurement from it
<eligrey> anyways unlike ellio i care about having a persistant mumble server up 24/7
<eligrey> x.oftn.org
<eligrey> dsamarin: we need to change it to labs.oftn.org soon
<gkatsev> labx? :P
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<alexgordon> sup
<ellio> hi alexgordon
<alexgordon> I'm on mavericks
<alexgordon> well not on here
<alexgordon> but on my MBP
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<alexgordon> it's cool
<dskuza> HAY BITCHES
<joelteon> hey bitch
<dskuza> hey that wasn't cool
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<dskuza> ellio:
<dskuza> ellio:
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE:
<dskuza> ELLIOTTCABLE: is being a dick
<dskuza> i quit IRC this thing's a piece of shit
<dskuza> purr hey bby
<dskuza> purr i love you
<micahjohnston> dskuza: are you gq or something
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: what's it like
* gkatsev has absolutely no idea, actually
<ellio> hi by
<ellio> dskuza: bye bitch
<ellio> micahjohnston: no, that's David.
<micahjohnston> haha
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<alexgordon> micahjohnston: snappier
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: neat
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<purr> <elliottcable> the alohabet doiesnt even have spiral
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