purr changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a _better_ cult || topics << 'gamedev'
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<kaplan_> Cheery, hi
<kaplan_> Cheery, are you Brit?
<Cheery> nop. fin
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<kaplan_> hi eligrey
<Cheery> I'm surprised. I actually managed to type in infix expressions without a problem.. and it parsed them into structure I wanted.
<Cheery> requires lot of tabbing through.. but after an improvement to the parser it shouldn't
<eligrey> hey kaplan_
<eligrey> kaplan_: why aren't you in #oftn?
<kaplan_> Should I be?
<eligrey> sorta
<eligrey> if you are a member
<kaplan_> I am not
<eligrey> oh ok
<eligrey> i thought you were for a sec
<eligrey> nvm i was thinking of a kaplun
<Cheery> I should think out the schema right.
<kaplan_> eligrey, What do you guys do at oftn?
<eligrey> any cool open source projects that we feel like working on
<eligrey> kaplan_: github.com/oftn
<Cheery> the basis is that it's still a context free grammar
<Cheery> list of generative rules.
<Cheery> there should be clear validation and context though
<Cheery> to get cue of problems related to those.. I can look into: https://github.com/cheery/textended-edit/blob/master/treepython.py
<kaplan_> eligrey, how does an identity verification system sound?
<eligrey> kaplan_: sounds like Persona or OpenID
<eligrey> but ok
<eligrey> kaplan_: what did you have in mind?
<kaplan_> eligrey, the opposite of anon ID
<kaplan_> you upload your identity to be verified by humans(or computers if possible)
<Cheery> hmm
<Cheery> I can't get over this.
<Cheery> the context free grammar looks like it looks
<Cheery> it's got terminals "+" "-" "<<"
<Cheery> it's got nonterminals <expr> <stmt> so on.
<Cheery> it's got generative rules
<Cheery> to map this into my tree structure, I need to give some of the generative rules a naming.
<Cheery> the given rule can appear in several contexes
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<Cheery> incomprehensibly: ELLIOTTCABLE mentioned you've got something to say about visual programming
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<Cheery> Only my capability as a programmer lets me to continue this project.
<Cheery> in that sense I feel that it's sort of failed
<Cheery> there's no interesting theory behind that'd need to be solved and that would make it work
<Cheery> just lot of small knife-hits
<Cheery> in many ways it feels like some early version of text editing. I don't think the thing I'm writing is particularly long-lived.
<Cheery> it solves one problem.
<Cheery> plain text editing the way we do it today shifts similar set of problems to language implementations
<Cheery> it introduces both and advantage and a deficit
<Cheery> the visual representation of the code isn't allowed to be ambiguous. This potentially prevents many problems
<Cheery> but it's also a deficit. The language cannot be extended.