17:05 <jfhbrook> pikajude you're a facebro right? what do you use insteada slack?

17:25 <pikajude> jfhbrook: does that have a negative connotation

17:25 <pikajude> also, we use messenger

17:25 <jfhbrook> good question, I don't think so

17:25 <jfhbrook> an old roommate used to call the product facebro and called being friends on fb facebros

17:25 <jfhbrook> and I liked it so I kept it up lol

17:25 <pikajude> yeah, turns out fb has a pretty useful messaging service that we can just borrow

17:25 <jfhbrook> anyway pikajude I got a recruitermail for some kinda SRE looking team and they said new york was a possibility

17:26 <pikajude> oh ok

17:26 <pikajude> well if you do end up with faceboo

17:26 <pikajude> k

17:26 <jfhbrook> so like, probably not gonna reply but might reply? there was a linked blog post that looked interesting but also really really old

17:26 <jfhbrook> was thinking about trolling them on that

17:30 <pikajude> fb has some great QoL stuff

17:30 <pikajude> if you want to work on www you can hit a button to get an on-demand VM with the codebase checked out already

17:31 <jfhbrook> dunno what QoL is

17:31 <pikajude> quality of life

17:31 <jfhbrook> I like, as a company fb ain't my fave but the paycheck and perks are, uh

17:31 <jfhbrook> what's the word I'm looking for

17:31 <jfhbrook> compelling

17:31 <jfhbrook> they're compelling

17:31 <pikajude> yeah

17:31 <jfhbrook> I think I'm too much of a noob to pass the interview

17:31 <pikajude> i mean

17:31 <pikajude> someone asked me this question recently

17:31 <jfhbrook> but who knows

17:31 <pikajude> how i feel about facebook

17:31 <pikajude> and i'm like

17:32 <pikajude> idk

17:32 <pikajude> no idea

17:32 <jfhbrook> I know exactly how I feel about it

17:33 <pikajude> oh good

17:33 <jfhbrook> I think it's a really polished product, though the website resource-wise is a lil heavy. I don't love the business model and I think facebook in some ways makes life worse not better (see: fake news) and I wish moderation was meaner to right wing dipshits

17:34 <pikajude> right

17:34 <jfhbrook> so I can't feel /good/ about increasing market dominance here, buuut

17:34 <pikajude> i'm working on the fake news stuff on search

17:34 <pikajude> so that's how i justify it morally to myself

17:34 <jfhbrook> I also feel like to a certain extent you can get away with working for soulless corps (I work for one already, they're called Univision and they're beholden to private equity types)

17:34 <jfhbrook> that's chill

17:34 <pikajude> i mean i gotta pay the rent

17:34 <jfhbrook> my biggest thing w/ fb is it would fundamentally change some of my friendships

17:35 <pikajude> that's weird

17:35 <ljharb> why

17:35 <jfhbrook> I have a friend that would actually try to hack my work

17:35 <ljharb> Doesn’t sound like much of a friend tbh

17:35 <jfhbrook> because he thinks facebook is /actually/ bad for the world

17:35 <jfhbrook> nah he's an excellent friend he just has really strong political opinions abt facebook (that I'm sympathetic to!)

17:35 <ljharb> None of the ways Facebook are bad for the world will be mitigated or stopped if Facebook vanished ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

17:35 <jfhbrook> I don't disagree

17:36 <ljharb> and hacking Facebook would just distract from what they need to improve and make them a martyr in the eyes of some, so it’d be counterproductive

17:40 <jfhbrook> you're missing the point ljharb

17:40 <jfhbrook> the core problem is that using data to do good ad targeting is fundamentally awful and the entire internet needs to be flipped over to serve the needs of The People rather than the needs of capitalism

17:41 <jfhbrook> you feel me?

17:41 <jfhbrook> sooolidarity foreeeever

17:41 <ljharb> i agree it’s fundamentally awful

17:42 <jfhbrook> like I said though I think the product is phenomenal

17:42 <jfhbrook> I have qualms but I love the product

18:05 <ljharb> agreed