<azonenberg> So i'm now pretty convinced that homebrewing a sputtering apparatus is possible
<Helldesk> do you use any gas in the chambe?
<Helldesk> chamber, that is
<azonenberg> Helldesk: For evaporation? no
<azonenberg> for sputtering, either argon (for normal DC sputtering)
<azonenberg> or argon plus oxygen/nitrogen to reactive sputter oxides and nitrides respectively
<azonenberg> Evaporation is done in the 1E-6 torr range and sputtering at 1E-2 ish
<Helldesk> is that still in the ballistic range or do the sputtered ions do a random walk?
<Helldesk> after they shoot off the target
<azonenberg> Helldesk: Sputtered are random
<azonenberg> And thus the coating is conformal
<azonenberg> Evaporation is ballistic so you can cast shadows etc
<azonenberg> I'm working this weekend but hoping to do Ni + Cr (Ni hardmask over Cr adhesion layer) evap over my latest wafer some time early next week
<azonenberg> then try my second serious attempt at a full through wafer etch
<azonenberg> and hopefully my first successful one :p
<Helldesk> ah, I see
<Helldesk> for Ni, argon seems to be just as good as krypton, and when you're doing Cr too it's the best choice
<azonenberg> Yeah, argon is the de facto standard
<azonenberg> neon and krypton are used occasionally
<azonenberg> but argon is right in the middle mass wise
<azonenberg> cheap
<azonenberg> "good enough" for most purposes
<Helldesk> closest atomic weight to most of the metals needed, right?
<azonenberg> Yeah
<soul-d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbF-hD5jnr0   nice mems intro
<azonenberg> Nice, will have to check it out at some point
<soul-d> yeah even he drops  the die  so makes it all worth it to :)
<soul-d> heal yeah :)
<soul-d> it actualy ssems to work to
<soul-d> but need more cables