<s_frit>
no GPU and "incomplete" HDMI are the things that might affect me. i'm developing on-device with a monitor
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<s_frit>
NanoPC T4 M.2 PCIe is supposedly not working with the Armbian 4.20.y kernel so, no new kernel for me. i wonder what the issue is
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<tomeu>
s_frit: I'm using a nanopc-t4 to hack on panfrost, and it's working quite well
<tomeu>
with hdmi
<s_frit>
tomeu: interesting. you're using mainline kernel?
<tomeu>
yep, 5.0-rc*
<s_frit>
are you using the m.2 slot?
<tomeu>
nope
<s_frit>
i'm booting off an nvme. igor mentioned on the forums recently that m.2 is broken with the latest armbian 4.20 kernel. but i have no other info
<tomeu>
guess one would need to test with mainline, see how it fails, and probably ask Robin Murphy if he knows anything about it
<tomeu>
(he's upstreaming support for this board)
<s_frit>
what are you using for userspace?
<s_frit>
this might all be best left to people who know what they're doing. i'm just starting learning to write kernel modules (driver for custom audio board) so i can probably get by with 4.4 kernel until the m.2 issue is resolved
<tomeu>
just debian
<tomeu>
sounds good to me, though debugging the kernel is a great way of learning how things tie together :)
<s_frit>
yeah. i fear that the learning curve to get from where i am now, to "debugging the kernel" might be a bit steep
<mmind00>
s_frit: you could nevertheless train to collect debug info :-) ... aka dump serial output somewhere and check for pcie errors or any log lines related to it ;-)
<s_frit>
mmind00: true. but to do that wouldn't i have to learn how to build a bootable debian image with mainline kernel?
<tomeu>
s_frit: tbh, i think debugging existing code makes the learning curve smoother, not steeper
<s_frit>
in my case the learning curve involves learning how to get started with linux images and kernel building + debugging
<s_frit>
i'm not worried about the code debugging aspect, i have plenty of experience with that
<tomeu>
I personally cannot contemplate writing kernel code before having such skills, but I guess there could be many ways of coming up with your driver
<tomeu>
I would expect that investment to pay off, though
<s_frit>
the investment will be less when i am motivated to do it
<s_frit>
i don't feel like i need to know how to debug a non-booting board just to develop an lkm
<s_frit>
anyhow, i'd be happy to contribute to fixing this pcie issue if there was an easy way to get started, but last time i looked for instructions i did not find a one-stop howto for building a bootable image
<tomeu>
that basically depends on what bootloader you are running
<tomeu>
first time I booted mine, I installed mainline u-boot though, so I'm not sure how that would be done with the factory one
<s_frit>
i'm not sure whether armbian installer replaced the bootloader. i would imagine so