<hanetzer>
sup guys. bit of an opinion question, how would one go about, as far as code layout in the kernel tree, setting up a hdmi controller? fbdev or other?
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<qschulz>
montjoie: ping
<wens>
seems like everything interesting is in linus' tree now
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<montjoie>
qschulz: pong
<qschulz>
montjoie: investigating this bug you reported
<qschulz>
I do not have an A20 so will be testing on a CHIP but should be fine
<montjoie>
when you want, I could test patch
<qschulz>
first trying to reproduce
<wens>
I think my SinA33 is dying on me... get all sorts of errors that look like memory corruption
<qschulz>
montjoie: so you built sun4i-gpadc-iio as a module
<qschulz>
did you build sun4i-gpadc also as a module? thermal, iio subsystems built-in or module?
<nove>
there isn't any future for myMobileOS, when at the same time is dependent of the one that wants to replace (android), because of binaries-blobs with license-issues that does not allow redistribution
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<nove>
it is free software, and that is all that is need to have a GNU OS
<olerem>
nove: well, i worked for different companies and most of then do not commit to puplic projects if license do not force then to do so
<olerem>
none of this companies ever gave back some code with BSD and MIT license
<olerem>
this is the reason why google trying to create new kernel (GPL-free)
<olerem>
to make this companies happy
<olerem>
the only reason why linux kernel has so many contributors is GPL. there are other technically good kernels. How mach code gave Apple back to BSD kernel?
<beeble>
apple does not have a bsd kernel. it only has a bsd personality
<beeble>
the osx kernel is based on mach
<beeble>
and xnu is opensource btw
<KotCzarny>
xenu?
<KotCzarny>
o.O
<beeble>
xnu as in x is not unix
<olerem>
beeble: thank you for correction. according to de.wikipedia (with components of FreeBSD and NetBSD)
<olerem>
is it correct as well?
<beeble>
short answer yes, long answer not so much any more
<olerem>
so including your correction, my point is still correct?
<beeble>
pretty much most of the things are just made so that it looks like a bsd to the userland
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<beeble>
but most of the parts they took are major rewrites. first of all to match the microkernel architecture
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<beeble>
so contributing back is sort of useless as it can't be used by *bsd
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<olerem>
hmm... the same say most companies i where was working. at the end it was not true
<olerem>
"it is only for our product...", "no body need it anyway...", "we should keep our adwantages in hous.." and so on
<beeble>
but the source is available_
<beeble>
?
<olerem>
of what?
<olerem>
if it was gpl code, every thing was at least made awailable.
<beeble>
so comparing xnu to a linux git checkout is totally useless
* vagrantc
wonders what it's got to do with #linux-sunxi
<beeble>
and of course you will have a lot more drivers in linux
<olerem>
beeble: yes.
<beeble>
vagrantc: sorry, but i hate gpl zealotism
<beeble>
will shut up now
<olerem>
:)
* vagrantc
must have missed something
<olerem>
vagrantc: i used keyword "apple" in bad context and was arguing that gpl is good
<tkaiser>
olerem: Not really but still off-topic so I will follow beeble and shut up too :)
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<olerem>
beeble: one more thanks. interesting to read the code of AppleRTL8139Ethernet-153. It is absulutely different level of coding :)
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<nove>
(i think that) fuchsia is not because GPL, as those companies already have what they want from the linux kernel
<nove>
what ever the kernel license, the license-issues will still happen, because is not a GPL problem but about having the right to redistribute and reuse
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<beeble>
nove: there is currently only one display/gpu driver in fuchsia and it's 3-clause bsd