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<dim>
beach: I've been wondering if anyone used SICL to implement CL for the .Net environement, of all things, recently, ala clasp for the CLR…
<dim>
(dotnet core is now open source after all)
<no-defun-allowed>
can't, mono still conflicts with chicken scheme on most distros
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<phoe>
dim: no one, though you could theoretically run ABCL on CLR via some bytecode translation mechanism and compatibility layer
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<beach>
dim: I seriously doubt it.
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<puchacz>
hi, can I execute a function from REPL that is normally executed inside hunchentoot handler please? things like *reply* would have to be bound to something
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<puchacz>
right, (let ((*reply* (make-instance 'hunchentoot:reply))) .... ) takes me far enough for my current problem :)
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<gabbiel>
ok, I have a macro, which macro expands into a defun, how come compiler says the function hasn't been defined though
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<stylewarning>
gabbiel: when are you trying to call the function?
<stylewarning>
In the same file?
<stylewarning>
Maybe you could share the macro?
<gabbiel>
here's macro
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<gabbiel>
(defmacro difun (name function &optional documentation)
<gabbiel>
"Defun NAME to apply FUNCTION to arbitrary &rest args."
<gabbiel>
because it says that %.flavors is undefined, but it should be because I DIFUN'd it
<gabbiel>
omg, just realized I didn't quote it
<gabbiel>
but the problem persisted for another difun though
<gabbiel>
and in that case, it didnt need to be quoted cause it was first element in list
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<dim>
anyway before CL on .Net I should invest time to produce a pgloader.jar that would be able to use JDBC, that'd be quite something, I guess
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<beach>
gabbiel: If you try to call the function in the same file, it won't work because the file compiler does not create the function at compile time. Only at load time.
<beach>
I mean, it will work after the file has been loaded, but it will give you a warning at compile time because the compiler is trying to compile a function-call form with a function that is not yet defined.
<beach>
gabbiel: But I think you need to explain a lot more about the exact contents of your file(s), how you compile them, and what you expect the result to be. For that, use a pastebin site rather than typing the code here in the channel.
<LdBeth>
Good morning
<beach>
Hello LdBeth.
<beach>
gabbiel: However, I can't stick around to help you because I am off to spend time with my (admittedly small) family.
<LdBeth>
nydel: the original code generator targets PPC, I’m working on generating architecture independent IR so I can use other compiler back to generate native binary
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<gabbiel>
thanks beach, I think I understand now
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<krwq>
how do i find list of predefined types in clhs?
<krwq>
(not classes)
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<krwq>
beach: do not want to exclude them, just clarifying that i didn't confuse terms
<beach>
It is especially strange to exclude classes since it is allowed for an implementation to have a class where the standard requires it to be only a type. Like FIXNUM for instance.
<beach>
I see.
<beach>
Well, on that page, you have the complete list of type specifiers.
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<mfiano>
Anyone know a good way to go about downloading large files to disk with drakma or dexador without an intermediate octet vector in memory?
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<krwq>
mfiano: drakma has :want-stream t
<krwq>
I usually wrap it with flexi stream and read
<krwq>
also :force-binary is useful to have uniform experience
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<krwq>
mfiano: after you got stream just create a file stream and alexandria has copy-stream
<mfiano>
krwq: It looks like dexador has (dex:fetch url pathname)
<krwq>
but I think there will be intermediate vector somewhere but only to forward
<krwq>
I mean not entire stream in the vector just buffer to forward it to another stream. haven't used dexador much - I had some issues with it in the past so came back to using drakma
<mfiano>
It makes use of :want-stream t for you
<krwq>
mfiano: i recall having some issues with dexador - i think it was proxy servers but can't remember
<mfiano>
I've had issues with both, due to usocket bugs, but my use this time doesn't affect my choice
<krwq>
http stack feels like needs a redesign - perhaps some fork of drakma
<krwq>
anyway, I'll be afk for some time, good luck
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<borodust>
bodge-ui-window (yet another gui dependent on foreign powers) now should work alright on retina displays too, any help with running example (https://github.com/borodust/bodge-ui-window#install) on macos with retina display is much appreciated
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<TheWild>
hello
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<TheWild>
sooner or later I had to hit this issue:
<TheWild>
(if cond-expr then-expr else-expr)
<TheWild>
how to put multiple things in then-expr and/or else-expr?
<jmercouris>
TheWild: "The values of each form but the last are discarded. "
<edgar-rft>
jmercouris: but I was better :.-)
<jmercouris>
edgar-rft: I admit defeat :D
<edgar-rft>
let's compete who's PROGN is bigger
<TheWild>
if not progn, I would probably end up with (let () (print "1") (print "2"))
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<edgar-rft>
TheWild: That would work, too, and COND has the PROGNs already built-in
<jmercouris>
its PROGNs all the way down
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<saturn2>
is there some code that will list the memory used by each global variable in a lisp image? or otherwise help track down gradual memory growth
<Xach>
dim: ya broke cl-db3!!
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<edgar-rft>
saturn2: AFAIK the only memory inspection tool mentioned in the CL standard is ROOM. Since low-level memory allocation is implementation-dependent there might be more or better tools provided by the respective CL implementation.
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<gabbiel>
test
<aeth>
saturn2: Generally you'd profile functions not variables afaik.
<aeth>
e.g. in SBCL, (sb-profile:profile foo) and then just periodically check on it to see how its measured consing climbs over time
<aeth>
I think someone made a portable clone of sb-profile
<aeth>
(you'd check with (sb-profile:report))
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<saturn2>
lots of functions do consing... i don't think sb-profile tracks how much of that consing sticks around for a given length of time
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<saturn2>
it's trivial to iterate over all symbols and check if they're boundp, the tricky part is calculating the size of lists, arrays, hash tables, clos objects, etc
<rdh>
hey, i am trying to get list of values quoted but i want it as arguments to a function, currently: (OR (NIL NIL NIL NIL T T NIL NIL)) ... but i need it to print (or (nil) (nil)...
<rdh>
but when i do something like that i get (OR ((XOR-2-VALUES T T) (XOR-2-VALUES T T)))
<pjb>
right.
<rdh>
which adds extra quotes and trys to eval the first argument as a function... which is not what I want... is there a good web page that has good thorough example to read?
<rdh>
lol i mean adds parentheses...
<pjb>
No, there's no web page explaining in details how you should write your specific program.
<pjb>
If there was, we wouldn't need you as a programmer.
<saturn2>
(room t) on sbcl gives enough info to tell me i'm leaking simple-vectors, but it doesn't tell me where they're ending up
<pjb>
We'd just go to this web page and copy-and-paste the code.
<rdh>
pjb
<rdh>
thats not what i asked.
<pjb>
But you're keeping your code close to you chest, right.
<rdh>
no
* pjb
is back watching his movie.
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<jgkamat>
does anyone know if it's possible to attach some data to a function somehow? Like a marker or something, on the function itself.
<krwq>
jgkamat: I think people usually use hash-table and define a macro which auto-adds something there
<jgkamat>
hmm, ok, that was my backup plan
<krwq>
jgkamat: how would attaching data to a function work?
<jgkamat>
in python, you can do it. Basically function.data = "foo" and "foo" == funciton.data. Maybe something like (getf #'my-function 'data)
<no-defun-allowed>
if all the functions have names, you can use symbol plists
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<jgkamat>
woaaaaaah nice, this is exactly what I wanted :]
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<jgkamat>
hmm, actually, is there a way to pass the function instead of a symbol in to get the data
<jgkamat>
maybe I should figure out what get is doing
<saturn2>
no, property lists are attached to symbols, not functions
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<Jachy>
jgkamat: Maybe the other way around, see what defun/function/symbol-function are doing ;) I suppose you could add a wrapper that asserted that the given symbol was fboundp if you wanted to make sure you can also associate a function from the symbol.
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