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<GitHub169> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/8058f5f3fddbadbe86f4a08fce39852773c29310
<GitHub169> conda-recipes/master 8058f5f whitequark: llvmlite-artiq: use g++-4.8.
<GitHub125> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/08619a140333...8058f5f3fddb
<GitHub70> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-32: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/08619a140333...8058f5f3fddb
<GitHub85> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into appveyor: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/e2d4bbd0d42f...8058f5f3fddb
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<GitHub51> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/d4f2bdca7d61f5719ade0aa79becd425fe81171b
<GitHub51> conda-recipes/master d4f2bdc whitequark: sphinx-argparse: bump.
<GitHub175> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-32: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/8058f5f3fddb...d4f2bdca7d61
<GitHub9> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/8058f5f3fddb...d4f2bdca7d61
<GitHub37> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into appveyor: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/8058f5f3fddb...d4f2bdca7d61
<GitHub149> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/8e1eb9d54a64bcc417f775871b8b53240c4d0b36
<GitHub149> conda-recipes/master 8e1eb9d whitequark: quamash: bump.
<GitHub57> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/d4f2bdca7d61...8e1eb9d54a64
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<sb0> whitequark, the vac2008 stuff arrived and i'd describe the quality as chinese average
<whitequark> can you be more specific?
<whitequark> maybe just post photos...
<sb0> I mean: it should work, but the diffusion pump heater doesn't hold well in its slot, it's also a stick heater into a mass of metal which cannot have a good homogeneous temperature, some welds are a bit rough, there is dirt and scratches
<whitequark> hmmm, I would take a look at those welds
<whitequark> amazing. pyqt depends on glib and conda decided they do not want to package glib
<whitequark> which is why the above failed on travis-32
<whitequark> I really do not understand this policy of just packaging some random subset of libraries and ignoring the others
<whitequark> it's completely boneheaded too. libstdc++ and glibc change its ABI but are not packaged; zlib is not going to, ever, but it i
<whitequark> *i
<whitequark> *is
<GitHub192> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/4ccb60be0a46295d251da2a785c33e7bb8faf9fd
<GitHub192> conda-recipes/master 4ccb60b whitequark: travis: install glib, which is an unpackaged dependency of pyqt.
<whitequark> sb0: they took a grinder to it didn't they?
<GitHub103> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/8e1eb9d54a64...4ccb60be0a46
<sb0> for? cleaning up the weld?
<whitequark> there is a saying, "if you grind your welds, you aren't a welder, you're a grinder"
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<travis-ci> m-labs/conda-recipes#62 (master - 4ccb60b : whitequark): The build is still failing.
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<whitequark> you can make any weld look good with enough grinding
<whitequark> usually if a weld is ground, it means it was shit
<whitequark> and it's still shit but now you can't see that
<sb0> so, does it matter, and how do you test?
<whitequark> test? if it's not ground, you can generally look at it and that will give you a good idea. but if you really want to know, or it was ground, your only option is helium leak detector
<whitequark> does it matter? unless they fucked it up spectacularly or you want anything better than -5 torr, probably not
<sb0> whitequark, do you have an idea about the typical temperature resistance of cpu thermal paste?
<sb0> I'm considering applying it on the diff pump heater, which may either improve things or burn and create a mess
<sb0> what is that for? containing oil backflows? http://www.vac2008.com/admin/upimages/200956144631544.jpg
<sb0> in their paper catalogue, they have a picture where it is mounted right on a mech pump
<sb0> according to google translate, it seems so.
<whitequark> I've never een anything like that
<whitequark> where i it mounted?
<sb0> right on the inlet of the mech pump
<whitequark> hmm
<sb0> and the chinese characters translate to something like "anti oil"
<whitequark> it look like an oil mit filter a bit
<sb0> it is not a oil mist eliminator
<whitequark> (my key died)
<whitequark> ok
<sb0> it is between the pump *inlet* and the rest of the vacuum system
<whitequark> then I have no idea what it i
<sb0> I'm sure it fills with oil when the pump backflows
<whitequark> I have a vacuum-operated valve for that but it look like a normal valve
<sb0> and then the oil is pumped back into the pump at the next power-up
<sb0> the chinese way ...
<whitequark> and frankly hot oil vapor eem only marginally better to me than downright oil
<whitequark> thermal pate... omethin like .5°C/W
<sb0> yes, but a diffusion pump runs much hotter than a CPU
<whitequark> well, though the polymer will probably not withtand over 200°C or o
<whitequark> well crap, I can't work without the letter
<GitHub99> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/3d76c6f349fe928a2a8556a46e35de0b52c11825
<GitHub99> conda-recipes/master 3d76c6f whitequark: travis: install libxext6, which is an unpackaged dependency of pyqt.
<sb0> that diffusion pump is totally like the edwards eo50
<sb0> but more roughly built
<whitequark> how much did it cot you again?
<GitHub196> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/4ccb60be0a46...3d76c6f349fe
<whitequark> well, eo50 i not all that bad a far a diffuion pump go
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<whitequark> compacts
<sb0> it's somewhat expensive, USD 500 or so
<whitequark> then you totally hould have got a turbopump
<whitequark> oh well. gue i can loan you my econd one anway once I'm in HK
<sb0> yeah probably. but I dislike ebay, and I was curious what the chinese stuff is like
<whitequark> hm, y eem be alo failing
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<GitHub0> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/140a6a0f01c161ea3bba7fcc70097da5904fe1ae
<GitHub0> conda-recipes/master 140a6a0 whitequark: travis: install libsm6, which is an unpackaged dependency of pyqt.
<GitHub151> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/3d76c6f349fe...140a6a0f01c1
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<whitequark> *igh*
<GitHub155> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/2d244a4c24a7f5e7e524b9883e9d1d6ca7e85a6e
<GitHub155> conda-recipes/master 2d244a4 whitequark: travis: install libxrender1, which is an unpackaged dependency of pyqt.
<sb0> whitequark, I guess continuum should eventually package pyqt for windows at some point?
<GitHub164> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/140a6a0f01c1...2d244a4c24a7
<sb0> oh interesting
<sb0> the expensive varian stuff also uses those suspicious stick heater. it's not a chinese idea.
<whitequark> I kipped pyqt for window build
<GitHub119> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-32: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/d4f2bdca7d61...2d244a4c24a7
<whitequark> oh FINALLY
<whitequark> the failure were from unaccouned dependencie in conda
<GitHub68> [conda-recipes] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/commit/fe936f8bd670e1a24333711138335e7e6ebbbfcc
<GitHub68> conda-recipes/master fe936f8 whitequark: pyqtgraph: bump.
<sb0> the edwards pump itself uses the same heater stick. so they really copied everything :)
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<GitHub131> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-64: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/2d244a4c24a7...fe936f8bd670
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<GitHub17> [conda-recipes] whitequark merged master into travis-32: https://github.com/m-labs/conda-recipes/compare/2d244a4c24a7...fe936f8bd670
<whitequark> hm, let me look at thi tick
<whitequark> ohhhhh thoe
<whitequark> yea that' typical for low-power heater
<sb0> my previous diffusion pump was even lower power and had a nice "pancake" heater
<sb0> it's main problem was, you couldn't open the pump to clean it up
<sb0> everything was welded shut
<sb0> *its
<whitequark> right
<whitequark> o, I rebuilt *all* of artiq' dependencie, except binutil
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<travis-ci> m-labs/artiq#511 (master - cbda753 : Sebastien Bourdeauducq): The build has errored.
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<whitequark> becaue binutil have ome weird cutom intall intruction with cygwin
<whitequark> on window, at leat
<whitequark> and I am really ot in hte mood of figuring out how to automatically intall cygwin
<GitHub96> [artiq] whitequark pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vCyuB
<GitHub96> artiq/master f3e61e2 whitequark: conda: move everything except artiq to conda-recipes (closes #138).
<sb0> whitequark, are you uploading all packages to the "main" channel now?
<whitequark> all that are manually built and generally conidered table, ye
<whitequark> automatically buil and not conidered table, like migen and artiq, no
<whitequark> when you decide it i table enough, you can propagate it uing the anaconda.org webite
<whitequark> the ame idea a , e.g. ubuntu main archive and ppa'
<sb0> so for using artiq now, both channels should be enabled?
<whitequark> ye
<whitequark> well, migen i propagated to main already
<sb0> I think I'll make a migen release soon
<whitequark> new one? or old?
<sb0> new
<whitequark> nice
<whitequark> liteeth fixed?
<sb0> much of the somewhat experimental stuff is pushed into misoc now
<whitequark> oh, migen
<sb0> liteeth still doesn't work no, and that is what preventing the artiq switch to migen/misoc new
<sb0> *is
<sb0> _florent_, what is the compiler-rt problem you have btw?
<sb0> when researching whether dimethicone can be used as diffusion pump fluid (the answer seems to be no, it will vitrify instead of boiling) I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_-zqsgDA4
<sb0> "gluten free" hahaha
<whitequark> would you like ome galden ls-230?
<whitequark> I have a bottle
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<whitequark> it i imilar to other fluoropolymer ued a pump fluid, though I am not ure how exactly uitable it i
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<sb0> hmm, maybe
<sb0> that pump should be easy to clean up, so can try...
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<whitequark> right
<whitequark> I can give you a gauge a well, I have three workin active pirani gauge right now
<whitequark> bought two on ebay for like $40 unteted, both turned out ot be in perfect condition
<whitequark> you can ee why i like ebay
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<cr1901_modern> I wish I had your luck. Gone are the days I get good deals on Ebay. Maybe literally once every two years somebody doesn't know any better re: what they're selling
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<sb0> seems thermal pastes survives 300C ...
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<sb0> whitequark, does this look like a hopeless chinese invention, or should this work (at least down to -2/-3 torr)? http://world.taobao.com/item/44545226680.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.mFJry2#detail
<whitequark> ahaha
<whitequark> well... -2..-3 torr? I think it will do
<whitequark> the advantage i that it add ver little reitance
<whitequark> I would not put it anywhere except forepump, but it will do the job there. I've een imilar one from reaonable vendor
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<whitequark> the 2nd one I am le ure actually
<whitequark> it doen't eem like you can take it away and clean, or replace the gaket
<whitequark> on decent angle valve you can do that and you can even get regaketing kit
<sb0> I have a dumpsterload of #2... but in France
<sb0> they're very dirty and indeed a PITA to clean up
<whitequark> I got one for like $160 off ebay. DN25
<whitequark> that' ued even. hey're expenive a fuck for ome reaon
<whitequark> new one are like $500
<sb0> $500 for what? needle valve?
<cr1901_modern> Okay, so artiq's build system just changed in the past 6 hours? Everything moved to conda-recipes, but the installation instructions for individual packages disappeared.
<sb0> what instructions are you looking for?
<cr1901_modern> sb0: Actually, let me check something before I answer that, sorry
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<cr1901_modern> sb0: conda packages directory discussed how to use miniconda to "upgrade" to Python 3.5, since currently miniconda ships with Python 3.4. Those instructions are gone
<cr1901_modern> Additionally, I'm trying to force conda to use the conda/artiq directory to install artiq, but not having much luck
<cr1901_modern> Additionally, conda bombs with "Error: Could not find some dependencies for artiq: pyqtgraph" on my Windows machine lol
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<GitHub37> [artiq] sbourdeauducq pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/vCSDT
<GitHub37> artiq/master c079624 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: protocols/logging: document, take level numbers for consistency with master publish
<GitHub37> artiq/master cee8f28 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: protocols/logging: add LogForwarder
<GitHub37> artiq/master 9bb94f0 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: master/log: move formatter into LogBufferHandler
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<sb0> why does asyncio print this stupid message "asyncio:socket.send() raised exception." when you write on a closed socket instead of, I don't know, raising the exception into the caller?
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<sb0> "asyncio logs this message after 5 attemps to write to a closed socket."
<sb0> wtf
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<GitHub141> [artiq] sbourdeauducq pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/vC92G
<GitHub141> artiq/master 786dc14 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: protocols/logging: fix split, warn on format errors
<GitHub141> artiq/master f332c1d Sebastien Bourdeauducq: ctlmgr: forward controller logs
<GitHub141> artiq/master 6c85602 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: protocol/logging: workaround for asyncio's inability to detect connection closes on writes
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<whitequark> ugh, conda doen't have an equivalent of Gemfile.lock
<whitequark> it' wore than fuckin /ruby/. you had to actually be trying.
<whitequark> sb0: no, not needle valve, jut angle valve
<whitequark> DN25
<whitequark> check out ajvs or other upplier
<whitequark> cr1901_modern: pyqt doe not work on window right now becaue it i not built for py35
<whitequark> o that i expected
<cr1901_modern> I'm just building from source for now; pygit2 was giving me trouble, but the docs are clear that I have to set some environment vars for it
<whitequark> you can intall mot thing on window from the main channel
<whitequark> including pygit2
<whitequark> no need to build from ource
<cr1901_modern> artiq provides the conda recipe in conda/artiq; how do I tell conda to use the source directory where conda/artiq lives instead of trying to install from the channels (which would download a fresh copy of the python source not versioned by git)?
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<cr1901_modern> I'm *guessig* that's in part what the setup.py script is for in artiq.
<whitequark> you can't, that' nto how conda work
<whitequark> jut ue the channel
<whitequark> wait
<whitequark> I miread what you aid
<cr1901_modern> Just to make sure; *every* time I want to commit a change, I need to copy the changes from the conda installed package to the git source
<whitequark> nonono
<whitequark> don't ue conda for development, it' only for deployment
<whitequark> pecifically
<whitequark> intall artiq, then unintall the artiq package but leave dependenci
<whitequark> then ue '$ python etup.py develop' in he aritq ource
<cr1901_modern> okay, that makes sense
<whitequark> then you can jut modify hte ource tree and run it a if it wa inttalled
<cr1901_modern> right, now everything makes sense
<cr1901_modern> my sympathies for your "s" key, btw
<whitequark> well, at leat i can type all the letter in "fuck". that' what really count, in't it
<whitequark> you know, dealing with conda and all
<cr1901_modern> Indeed, that's what really counts. I can relate; not a huge fan of conda's package management portion. ("activate" is pretty cool, though I'm sure virtualenv could replace it)
<whitequark> nothing in conda i deigned well, or even with a look athow other package manager do it
<cr1901_modern> I'm assuming quamash hasn't been uploaded yet as well?
<whitequark> pyqt doen't work on window
<whitequark> well, pyqt5 i not built for window in conda, more pecifically
<cr1901_modern> OH! My mistake... looks like I will be reinstalling Linux tonight. Ty for telling me that.
<cr1901_modern> I kinda need pyqt5 to do what sb0 wants me to do
<cr1901_modern> whitequark: have you looked into building Qt 5 from source on Windows? It seems it's the only way to do it, since Python 3.5 depends on Visual Studio 2015, and Qt doesn't have prebuilt binaries for 2015
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<cr1901_modern> Aaand, now I'm compiling Qt 5. Because my hard drive totally had too much unused space.