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<houkime>
offtopic - omg, have just read about Kerbal Space Program controversy with new owners TakeTwo spying on users via game and having a bs eula... And there're people who say we don't really need opensource gaming... Turns out we need.
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<houkime>
TakeTwo even went as far as to claim their ownership on the modder content in what looks like an attempt to prevent a new foss spacegame hatching from open modded assets and scripts.
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<Oksana>
That's like... Don't publish your photographs/anything on Internet unless you have read EULA/Terms&Conditions, and have seen that you are the owner of your content.
<Oksana>
In short, common sense.
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<houkime>
I believe some of modded stuff is even on github under gpl3 or similar but still this corp is claiming sth. I guess what's on github is relatively safe as TakeTwo should not win a lawsuit under any sane jurisdiction.
<houkime>
Like it is if I proclaim myself an owner of Linux.
<houkime>
*an exclusive rights owner.
<houkime>
and try to make any copy illegal without my blessing
<houkime>
the thing is they proclaim their ownership AFTER the mods are made.
<houkime>
because they weren't a game owners when modders were starting up. They are the new ones.
<houkime>
so technically KSP community still can start their own game with modded assets that were properly licensed and that they already have. Not sure they would do that though.
<houkime>
It was a thing with Portal2 though when modmakers branched off and made their own gamestudio (partly reusing modded assets) so it is not impossible.
* Oksana
is not interested in computer games - waste of time, and increase obesity due to the encouraged sedentary life-style. But that's my personal opinion, and I tend to be very opinionated at times.
<houkime>
I personally think that games and fiction is just another form of planning and presenting/simulating concepts.
<Oksana>
Possibly. I am well familiar with concept of spending lots of time on fiction - reading is one of my favourite pastimes.
<houkime>
emm... Why should it use a headset as antenna? There is just an antenna for that.
<houkime>
it has a place on the pcb and I actually showed it in my video
<Oksana>
FM transmitter has internal antenna. FM receiver always uses headphone as antenna for reception.
<Oksana>
Transmitting FM for a short distance is doable with tiny internal antenna. Receiving FM from a far away station is better done with long whip-like antenna - aka, headphone.
<houkime>
hmmm. This makes sense
<Oksana>
Transmitting FM via an external antenna would have broken the regulations, probably, due to jamming the radio waves. Hence, transmitting via internal antenna only.
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, makes sense and Oksana has it 10% correct
<DocScrutinizer05>
100 even
<Oksana>
One of obvious use-cases would be to have radio-alarm (and yes, alarm can already ring when OS/CPU is shut down; but it rings currently from an audio file)
<DocScrutinizer05>
Oksana: I tried to implement it this way (play radio without CPU support) but I forgot if I achieved it
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<DocScrutinizer05>
wait wait. what? Radio Alarm?
<Oksana>
Yes. Like, ordinary clock+alarm devices have radio-alarm functionality built-in, most of the time. But they all need 240V power supply.
<DocScrutinizer05>
iirc we have the FM radio in/out simply in parallel to line-in/out
<DocScrutinizer05>
so if that's true, you could even hook your home stereo to 3.5mm line-out and play FM radio with CPU powered down ;-D
<Oksana>
Since alarm can wake up N900/Neo900 even when OS/CPU is shut down, and radio can be played even when OS/CPU is shut down, it means that it is possible for wake-up alarm to play radio instead of audio file.
<DocScrutinizer05>
which alarm could "wake up N900/Neo900 even when OS/CPU is shut down" (and stays shut down, and how)?
<Oksana>
Not sure about "stays shut down", because alarm usually asks user "Switch on the device? Yes/No"
<DocScrutinizer05>
any RTC alarm would simply power up or nonmaskable-IRQ the CPU
<DocScrutinizer05>
and yes, CPU then notices it been woke up by RTC alarm and pops up such a requester if needed
<Oksana>
Hmm, so CPU has already woken up due to alarm, partially. Just hasn't loaded the whole OS/desktop, yet?
<DocScrutinizer05>
actually the question is misleading, should be "keep the device powered up, or go to power-down state again?"
<DocScrutinizer05>
yep
<DocScrutinizer05>
sorry, afk again
<DocScrutinizer05>
I'm busted
<DocScrutinizer05>
wasted?
<DocScrutinizer05>
zombie
<Oksana>
Rest well :-)
<houkime>
wpwrak says that he doesn't have enough time so I'm currently trying to make eeshow to work with both kicad5 and kicad4
<DocScrutinizer05>
re FM ant: I changed that a bit, so both FM RX and TX whould work via internal and headset whip antenna, though to a massively different degree of functionality
<Oksana>
Huh, fascinating...
<DocScrutinizer05>
plus internal had 3rd function for WWAN MIMO
<DocScrutinizer05>
in 3G
<DocScrutinizer05>
4G?
<Oksana>
Currently reading http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Chipset , I guess USB PHY is used in Neo900 (unlike N900), because TWL5030B is connected to USB#0 (and modem to USB#1 and hackerbus to USB#2)?
<Oksana>
>> MIMO has become an essential element of wireless communication standards including IEEE 802.11n (Wi-Fi), IEEE 802.11ac (Wi-Fi), HSPA+ (3G), WiMAX (4G), and Long Term Evolution (LTE 4G). <<
<DocScrutinizer05>
houkime: great
<houkime>
the changes are in sch files and .pro and they are related to symbol lookup in libraries.
<houkime>
so basically there needs to be 2 lookup modes now separate for kicad4 an kicad5
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<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, AND the tricky story starts with version control system aka git, and the correlating between lib component version and project file schematics version
<DocScrutinizer05>
IOW when you open a schematics from Dec 2017, you want the symbols from Dec 2017 which originally been used when the schematics got drawn
<DocScrutinizer05>
kicad has a few concepts in this regard that are invented by a troll with a gas brain.
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