00:09 <Oksana> Joerg-Neo900: There are lots of used Nokia N900 devices in the wild - a good source of mechanical parts, albeit not perfectly new ones. Some may have problems with USB ports, SIM card not being detected and such, but that's irrelevant since motherboard will be replaced either way?

00:10 <Joerg-Neo900> yes

00:11 <Joerg-Neo900> but most of them have defects in LCD and digitizer, not to mention the scratches on digitizer

00:11 <Joerg-Neo900> and sourcing them is not feasible since it takes almost a day of organizational work incl customs etc, for each single one

00:12 <Oksana> Hmm, true. My current Nokia N900, everyday phone, has glass peeling off from digitizer. Should replace digitizer, and cover it with screen protector immediately. And I may have debris inside camera module.

00:14 <Oksana> It's mostly relevant for those who have skills to disassemble and assemble the phone, and replace damaged parts as needed.

00:15 <Oksana> Then they may find a local old Nokia N900 for mechanical parts.

00:20 <Joerg-Neo900> yep, but the project obviously never will gather the needed number of NeoN board preorders to make it fly

00:21 <Joerg-Neo900> unless we find a sponsor

00:21 <Joerg-Neo900> or a fab doing it for the fame

00:56 <Oksana> One frustrating part is flex ribbon of LCD display - it has connector for touchscreen, as well, so it's pretty non-standard.

01:01 <Oksana> Honestly, there should be an adapter for that. From "universal LCD display" to "Nokia N900 connectors".

01:16 <Joerg-Neo900> indeed

01:19 <Oksana> But first of all, it is frustratingly difficult to find any 3.5in 800*480 LCD displays. With correct connector or not.

01:21 <Oksana> Well, perhaps not that difficult... https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3-5-inch-lcd-monitor-with_60432882110.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.2.f50746476nZL0Z&s=p

01:22 <Joerg-Neo900> you even need the correct controller chip in display

01:23 <Joerg-Neo900> unless you want to "patch" the display drivers in OS

01:23 <Joerg-Neo900> and NOLO

01:24 <Oksana> NOLO, no, no idea.

01:26 <Joerg-Neo900> Pyra had a nightmare of problem to find a LCD that is driven in landscape mode, not portrait. Thanks to Android etc smartphones

01:26 <Joerg-Neo900> in the end they added a chip that turns the display a 90° iirc

01:27 <Oksana> What does MCU-16bit mean?..

01:27 <Joerg-Neo900> in which context?

01:31 <Oksana> Interface type for LCD module: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3-5-inch-lcd-monitor-with_60432882110.html

09:57 <chomwitt> ultimate hacking keyboard claims to be an open-hardware minded project .

09:58 <chomwitt> they use kicad

15:43 <norly> hi, does the neo900 team work together with the Pyra Phone project? that sounds a lot like Step2, and it': https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/gta15-pyraphone.83499/#post-1446944

15:44 <norly> and it'd be great if the projects could join forces

17:14 <DocScrutinizer05> Nikolaus Schaller initially was member of Neo900 team and later assigned all his timeslots to Pyra layout. Many of the design details been shared between Neo900 and Pyra.

17:50 <norly> thanks for the explanation!

18:32 <sicelo> that looks like a nice phone!