malc has quit ["no reason"]
kjs3 has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
smkl has quit [carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net]
smkl has joined #ocaml
smkl has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
yangsx has joined #ocaml
Miwong has joined #ocaml
<Miwong> hello
<yangsx> hi
* Yurik is away: I'm busy
* Yurik is back (gone 00:00:30)
yangsx has left #ocaml []
smkl has joined #ocaml
<Yurik> smkl: hi
Miwong has quit ["BitchX: use it, it makes hair grow in funny places!"]
Yurik has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
owll has joined #ocaml
owll has quit ["Client Exiting"]
gene9 has joined #ocaml
gene9 has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
Yurik has joined #ocaml
Yurik has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
Yurik has joined #ocaml
skylan has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
<Yurik> anybody here?
<Dybbuk> I am!
<Yurik> Dybbuk: re :-)
<Yurik> I've prepared first version of proposal about namespaces for OCaml
<Yurik> and want some people judge on it before posting it to maillist
<Yurik> if that people are interested, of course :-)
<Dybbuk> Yurik: Well, I wouldn't mind reading it...but I'm still a newbie, so I don't know if I could give you any good feedback.
<Dybbuk> Where is the mailing list? I'd like to join it.
<Yurik> look @ caml.inria.fr
<Yurik> you'll find it
* Yurik is drunk a bit w/ cognac
<Dybbuk> Found it.
<Dybbuk> Mmmmm, I like cognac.
<Yurik> me too :))
<Yurik> and here cognac is quite cheap :))
<Dybbuk> But it's only 9:00 in the morning here, so I'm not going near it. :)
<Yurik> as all alcohol :)
<Dybbuk> Ahh, alcohol is expensive here.
<Yurik> Fri Jun 28 19:11:47 EEST 2002
<Yurik> our alcohol is very cheap here, as I can judge
* Yurik drinks new portion of cognac
<Dybbuk> A bottle of cheap brandy is $15. But your average cognac will probably be $20-30.
<Yurik> 8-O
<Yurik> moderate cognac is about $3-$5 here
<Dybbuk> Wow! Maybe I'll move there. :)
<Yurik> s/moderate/average/
<Dybbuk> What about scotch?
<Yurik> scotch? well, here it is not popular
<Yurik> is it a whiskey?
<Dybbuk> Yep, it's a type of whiskey from Scotland.
<Yurik> ah
<Yurik> here people drink vodka instead of whiskey usually
<Dybbuk> Very good stuff...but a pretty harsh flavor for the uninitiated.
<Yurik> here it is cheap too
<Yurik> whiskey is like our 'samogon'
<Yurik> so usually worse than vodka
<Dybbuk> Hahah. :) That's funny...it's the other way around here.
<Dybbuk> Vodka is the cheap stuff, whiskey is the expensive stuff.
<Yurik> how much vodka costs at yours shops? :)
<Dybbuk> But really, whiskey is very popular in America. You can get really cheap whiskey or hilariously expensive whiskey.
<Yurik> i know only one - our f*cking president likes whiskey much
<Dybbuk> Cheap vodka is about $10. Where I live, there are lots of taxes on liquor, and the state controls sales.
<Yurik> :)
<Dybbuk> But it varies by state over here.
<Yurik> hah, our cheap vodka is about 60c
<Dybbuk> Wowsa.
<Yurik> but average is about $1.4
<Dybbuk> You can't even get good beer for 60c here. :)
<Yurik> heh
<Dybbuk> At a bar, the cheapest beer you'll find is horrible swill for $1.
<Yurik> I can get quite good beer of 1.7 hrivnyas... it is... umm.. let me calculate...
<Dybbuk> But a pint of good beer normally costs $3.
<Yurik> 1.7 UAH ~= 30c
<Dybbuk> Wow.
<Dybbuk> So what you're saying is, your lousy economy has some benefits. :)
<Yurik> hehe :)
<Yurik> and we've Crimea - the source of really rocky wine! :)))
<Dybbuk> Hahah. You live near there?
<Yurik> well, one night in train
<Yurik> about 700km
<Yurik> you know Crimea?
<Dybbuk> Only from this website I just pulled up. :)
<Yurik> :-)
<Yurik> what is the website?
<Dybbuk> I did a search on 'crimea wine'. :)
<Yurik> :)
<Yurik> something about wine there? :)
* Yurik finally opens that URL
<Dybbuk> A bit.
<Dybbuk> Wow, Yalta has a nice castle.
<Yurik> in fact, Yalta is a very expensive and dirty city :-))
<Dybbuk> Hahaha.
<Dybbuk> So where in Ukraine are you? Near Kiev?
<Yurik> nope
<Yurik> I'm in Kharkov
<Yurik> 500km from Kiev
<Yurik> hmm? hold a sec
<Dybbuk> Oh, Kharkiv?
<Yurik> yes, Kharkiv (it is in Ukrainian)
<Yurik> Kharkov is in Russian
<Dybbuk> Ohh, ok.
* Yurik has a bit of cognac yet
<Yurik> uummmmm
<Yurik> good
<Dybbuk> Heheh.
<Dybbuk> So Ukranian is a dialect of Russian, or a whole different language?
<Yurik> it is just another slavic language
<Yurik> it has a lot of common with Russian
<Yurik> but with another slavic ones too
<Yurik> (Bielorussian, Slovak, Polska, Czezh and so on)
<Dybbuk> Cool. I don't even know little bits of any slavic languages.
<Yurik> they are quite complex for english speaking people
<Yurik> (as I heard from 'em)
<Yurik> may be you've heard 'perestroika' :-)
<Yurik> about 1985-89 :)
<Dybbuk> Oh yeah, I've heard that word. :)
<Yurik> it means something like 'rebuilding'
<Dybbuk> Wasn't that Gorbachev's favorite word?
<Yurik> yeah
<Dybbuk> Did it work?
<Yurik> also 'demokratija' and 'glasnost'
<Yurik> :)
<Yurik> welll...
<Yurik> after Gorbachev USSR was broken
<Yurik> and here we're :)
<Yurik> Ukraine tends to be a democratic country
<Dybbuk> So do people seem to be enjoying democracy, or do they miss the old way?
<Yurik> well, current situation is much better than USSR's communism
<Yurik> not ideally good, absolutely not
<Yurik> there a lot of problems to build a new country with another model
<Yurik> but at least we're trying to make our country better
<Yurik> and...
<Yurik> old people want to leave in an old way
<Yurik> (people with age more than 60 years usually)
<Yurik> the rest mostly want to not to live an old way
<Dybbuk> So is it improving, you think?
<Yurik> i think yes
<Yurik> at least hope that it is improving
<Yurik> :)
* Yurik got a last portion of cognac and is out for 5 minutes to smoke a bit
* Yurik is back
<Dybbuk> I am so sick of C.
<Yurik> C sucks
<Dybbuk> I'm working on this template parser for HTML files that runs Perl subroutines for various keywords...it's so messy.
<Dybbuk> Perl sucks, too.
<Yurik> Perl sucks *A LOT*
<Dybbuk> Heh, I wrote the parser originally in Perl. It was so slow I laughed at it.
<Yurik> OCaml really kicks ass
<Dybbuk> OCaml does really kick some serious ass.
<Yurik> :)
* Yurik thinks. Friday. Drinkday.
<Dybbuk> Hahah. Not at work it isn't. :)
<Yurik> my work day is finished already
<Dybbuk> Do you get to write Ocaml for a living?
<Yurik> not yet
<Dybbuk> Me neither. At least, not when my boss is looking. :)
<Yurik> i only got Erlang for one commercial project for server
<Yurik> OCaml is for my open source project
<Yurik> Hopefully, it will be invested some time
<Dybbuk> I showed him some Ocaml code yesterday...I reimplemented part of our thousand-line search engine in 80 lines of Ocaml. He was pretty happy about that.
<Yurik> heh
<Dybbuk> Our search engine right now consists of a bunch of Perl code which constructs the ugliest SQL query in the known universe.
<Yurik> mmm
<Dybbuk> Which isn't very fast.
<Yurik> i dislike RDBMS for most of tasks
<Dybbuk> Oracle hates it. :)
* Yurik is out for a bit
* Yurik is back
Miwong has joined #ocaml
<Miwong> hello
<Yurik> Miwong: hi
<Dybbuk> Ok...what about random numbers in Ocaml?
skylan has joined #ocaml
<Dybbuk> Is there an easy way to generate an .mli file, or does one have to do it by hand?
<Yurik> by hand
<Yurik> usually
<Dybbuk> ocamlopt -i can do part of the work for you, too.
<Dybbuk> I just discovered that. :)
<Dybbuk> Ok, so the stream stuff, like [< '1; '2 >], needs camlp4, right?
gene9 has joined #ocaml
gene9 has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
Miwong has quit ["."]
engstad has joined #ocaml
<engstad> Greets.
<smkl> hello
TimFreeman has joined #ocaml