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<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> Is OCaml allowed to do optimizations that change physical equality?
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS>
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> Can the following function be a noop?
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS>
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> ```ocaml
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> type x = | A
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> let f A = A
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> ```
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> my guess, OCaml is not allowed to do it, but with 100% safe code, that is possible
<vsiles> you mean replace `f x` with `x` ?
<theblatte> variants with no arguments are always going to be physically equal
<theblatte> I think
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<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> theblatte you're right I updated it to an example with an argument so that allocations happens
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS>
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> ```ocaml
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> type x = | A of int
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> let f (A n) = A n
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> ```
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> vsiles: yes
<vsiles> I guess flambda might do that ?
<theblatte> yes, physical disequality is not at all guaranteed to be preserved as far as I know
<d_bot_> <EduardoRFS> then there is some possible cool code to optimize
<d_bot_> <octachron> Physical equality already changes between bytecode, the native compiler and flambda.
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<aditi31478> This is Aditi from India. I recently came across the ocaml project while browsing through the outreachy website and the projects for summer internship 2021.
<aditi31478> Though the contribution period hasn't started yet, I was looking forward to familiarising myself with the project and getting comfortable with it. I was looking for a suitable starting point for the same.
<aditi31478> It would be really helpful if you could help me out with this.
<aditi31478> Thank you :)
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<gunjan> Greetings everyone , I am Gunjan Agarwal, I am interested in contributing to outreachy this summer , but could'nt find the point from where I should start. Can you please guide me about the same.
<octachron> This year, the OCaml outreachy internships are focused on ocaml.org (https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org), there should be few good-first-issue listed on the issue page (https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml.org/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Agood-first-issue)
<gunjan> Ok I will through the links and see what I can do.Thankyou :)
<d_bot_> <Drup> @EduardoRFS This optimisation is allowed, and currently done by flambda IIRC.
<d_bot_> <Drup> Might even be done by the vanilla compiler, there was a patch about it some time ago
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<hannes> anyone with ocamldoc/odoc experience here? so I have several "module type" in a mli (let's say 'module type A = sig .. end and module type B = sig .. end'. and another module type 'module type S = sig module A : A module B : B end' - how would I 'inline' the documentation written in A and B into the top level with odoc?
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<hannes> since atm I get an index page, have to click on A/B/S in order to read the documentation, but I'd prefer to just have it inline (there's not much top-level meat in the module itself, i.e. no functions & types)
<hannes> I discovered that e.g. Irmin uses a magic (** @inline *) string, but I was unable to find its documentation and where to put it (in Irmin it is placed just after "include A", but I'm not "includ"ing anything here..
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<hannes> another question: what is the difference between "module A : sig .. end" and "module type A = sig .. end"?
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<d_bot_> <ggole> The first defines the signature of the module `A`, and the other defines a module type called `A`
<d_bot_> <Christophe> same difference basically between `let a: ... ` and `type a = ... `
<hannes> ah, thanks
<d_bot_> <ggole> And the two `A`s are in different namespaces
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<zozozo> with ocamlles it seems there are cases where ocamllex raises an internal exception even if there is a case such as "| _ { ... }" in the lexer rules (it seems to happen on weird unicode characters), is that expected ?
<zozozo> *ocamllex
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