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<owrt-snap-builds> build #745 of malta/be is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/builders/malta%2Fbe/builds/745
<owrt-1907-builds> build #262 of sunxi/cortexa53 is complete: Failure [failed pkgbuild] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org/openwrt-19.07/images/builders/sunxi%2Fcortexa53/builds/262 blamelist: Adrian Schmutzler <freifunk@adrianschmutzler.de>
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<KGB-0> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_bcm47xx.html has been updated. (100.0% images and 95.3% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
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<rmilecki> Tapper: hey, i'm looking at the LuCI issue you reported: #4801 add missing btn class to buttons
<rmilecki> Tapper: do screenreaders actually handle class "btn" in some special way? or is it some CSS related to the "btn" that applies and matters?
<Tapper> rmilecki Hi just got out of bed so bbair with me.
<Tapper> It does help screen readers I will find you a link what says it better than I can.
<rmilecki> Tapper: great, thanks
<rmilecki> Tapper: i find that "btn" class something fragile, I don't believe HTML / CSS specification treates "btn" name in any specific way
<rmilecki> Tapper: i was wondering if there is some better way of achieving the same
<rmilecki> Tapper: like ARIA or similar :)
<rmilecki> Tapper: let me check that
<rmilecki> Tapper: oh, that role="button" looks way more "stable"
<rmilecki> Tapper: that seems to be more explicit
<rmilecki> Tapper: could you verify if we can replace class="btn" with role="button" and have a nice screenreader support still?
<Tapper> When you don't have the btn class some times your screen reader does not fokes on the button so you cant click on it.
<Tapper> Yeah I will have a look.
<rmilecki> Tapper: thanks
<Tapper> rmilecki I am not shure on the exact difrence between btn class and btn role. sorry.
<rmilecki> Tapper: well, if there isn't obvious difference, I vote for using role "button"
<rmilecki> Tapper: that way it says explicitly what's the link purpose
<Tapper> OK as long as it works.
<Tapper> lol
<rmilecki> :)
<Tapper> thanks for looking.
<rmilecki> Tapper: thank you :)
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<jow> I think if at all, the .btn CSS class triggers some screen reader heuristics
<jow> and it should be redundant for <button> elements
<jow> I guess it helps in cases where non-<button>, non-<input> elements are styled like buttons, e.g. <a> or <div> tags
<jow> but iirc that isn't done anywhere in base LuCI
<rmilecki> jow: i thought the same (heuristics)
<rmilecki> jow: let me check example pointed by Tapper
<rmilecki> Tapper: i'm looking at the commit you pointed out: https://github.com/openwrt/luci/commit/34417400893d8513f92c4e4ba3a1b8c9207a5392 luci-app-advanced-reboot: add missing btn class to buttons
<rmilecki> Tapper: that commit adds "btn" class to the <button> elements
<rmilecki> Tapper: that should be redundant, i would expect every screen reader to treat <button> as button obviously
<rmilecki> Tapper: even if <button> does not have "btn" class
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<Tapper> I am not shure on the exact code used. I know that buttons work as they should when the are dun proper. My issue is that in luci > firewall the buttons labled Save and Reset work as they should. the Save & Apply one does not and some times the screen reader does not let me click on the buttons as it should.
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<Tapper> Even the Save Reset ones some times do not let me press them I have to tab back and then tab foreword again.
<Tapper> Some times the button labeled Save & Apply just says out of list ▾
<Tapper> blank
<rmilecki> Tapper: thanks for examples, i'll check them
<Tapper> NP thanks
<Borromini> blogic: ping
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<jow> the save & apply button is actually a dropdown
<jow> for that one, an aria-role=button actually makes sense
<Tapper> jow It does not work. Not with a screen reader any way.
<Tapper> I didn't even know it was a drop down.
<Tapper> There is a lot more to buttons than I thought.
<Tapper> There is more to buttons than I thought.
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<jow> Tapper: yeah, I figured
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<blogic> Borromini: hi
<Borromini> blogic: hi!
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<Borromini> or there's a few MT7621 devices that need this for their switch to be reset
<Borromini> s/or //
<blogic> ok
<blogic> will do when I am back on my pc
<Borromini> thanks a lot =)
<svanheule> Borromini, blogic: thanks!
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<mwalle> hi, I was just looking at support for openwrt for our layerscape based board (aarch64). It has upstream support since 5.9. It appears that the layerscape/arm64 boards are using 5.4. Are there any plans to bump that version in the near future (next LTS kernel?)
<Borromini> mwalle: after 21.02 gets branched
<Borromini> there's 5.10 patches for a few targets already
<Borromini> but not layerscape afaik.
<mwalle> Borromini: ah nice, i have a quick look at the layerscape patches for the 5.4 kernel. it looks like most are backports
<Borromini> plan seems to be to branch 21.02 next week, but i have no idea how quickly 5.10 patches will move into master after that
<Borromini> https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git;a=summary < there's preliminary 5.10 support in this tree e.g.
<Borromini> this is just general treewide, targets often need further work to be fully functional
<mwalle> Borromini: sorry, I haven't done any development in openwrt for now, so this might be a stupid question: how do the bumps to a new kernel version look like?
<mwalle> eg. https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git;a=tree;f=target/linux/layerscape/armv8_64b;h=abc1e4fb6a9b83eec71f76351603240e49b65693;hb=HEAD, there is still the 5.4
<Borromini> mwalle: like this https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b27b5ad1a42426420dfa46ebb932dd1fc704fbf
<Borromini> and to bring up a target to that new kernel, like this e.g.: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/3693
<Borromini> so a generic treewide part and a target specific part
<mwalle> Borromini: ahh thanks for the pointers! So there is really just one kernel version for all targets (or most?)
<Borromini> yes, 19.07 was a mixed release but 21.02 should be all 5.4
<Borromini> to lower maintenance burden there can be a testing kernel (5.10 in case for ramips, e.g.) and a 'stable' kernel (5.4)
<Borromini> but once the overall tree has moved to a new default kernel older ones tend to be stripped
<mwalle> Borromini: ok, so the "for-next" is https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/nbd.git? ie. i should take that as a starting point
<Borromini> mwalle: yes, those 5.10 patches might very well move to master
<Borromini> see the ramips PR from github i linked, that's based on those patches as well
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<mwalle> Borromini: thanks!
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<joaohcca> @Hauke I see, maybe a conflict between software and hardaware watchdog ? It is something that I should fix on my code?
<Borromini> mwalle: happy to help. good luck.
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<mwalle> ha, here is another one. uboot-layerscape, I take that "layerscape" is a generic name, i.e. my board should be "layerscape" but it has both upstream linux and upstream uboot support. thus uboot-layerscape is really just an "uboot-layerscape-nxp-only-evalboars". Hum
<mwalle> and there seems to be no vanilla uboot package. are there no boards which use an unmodfied uboot? ;)
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<ynezz> mwalle: imx6
<ynezz> or you mean from layerscape?
<mwalle> ynezz: no in general, I was just asking myself where I should put the bootloader for my board
<mwalle> uboot-layerscape isn't suitable, because its the nxp branch
<mwalle> (or even tree)
<ynezz> what board is that?
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<ynezz> naming is hard, but if IIUC and you've some board which is supported by the upstream uboot, then perhaps the current directory should be renamed to uboot-layerscape-lsdk
<ynezz> (if that would be possible)
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<mwalle> ynezz: the board name is kontron_sl28 (dunno if that will help you much ;) but its based on a LS1028A SoC
<mwalle> ynezz: and yes, that would be a better name, although the upstream name is uboot-qoriq
<mwalle> which has the same problem, so yeah, the -lsdk suffix would be correct
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<mwalle> doh. even the target/linux/layerscape is really a layerscape-lsdk :( because it imports all the lsdk patches on top of the 5.4 kernel
<mwalle> so this might be a bit unpopular: what do you think about renaming the whole layerscape cruft to layerscape-lsdk ? and create a new layerscape which uses the vanilla kernel and stuff
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<rmilecki> adrianschmutzler: hey, don't we need to add SOC to the list of variables?
<rmilecki> adrianschmutzler: i'll test your patch this weekend I hope
<adrianschmutzler> rmilecki: it's in image.mk I think
<rmilecki> include/image.mk: DEVICE_DTS_CONFIG DEVICE_DTS_DIR DEVICE_FDT_NUM SOC BOARD_NAME \
<rmilecki> thanks adrianschmutzler
<rmilecki> i'll test it
<adrianschmutzler> exactly, that was part of my unification efforts
<adrianschmutzler> so, we have that on ath79, ramips, lantiq, ...
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<ynezz> mwalle: I would prefer to get rid of this LSDK crap and just use upstream kernel/uboot
<ynezz> mwalle: and thus force NXP to upstream
<ynezz> mwalle: I would keep it in this release 21.02, but switch to upstream sources for next, add current layerscape boards based on LSDK to the list of targets for removal
<ynezz> I don't like it since beginning, it's impossible to review this LSDK code bombs etc.
<ynezz> I assume we don't want to have layerscape/layerscape-lsdk targets :p
<ynezz> d'oh, scratch that, that's actually nonsense
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<ynezz> actually I don't know how to handle this, probably need to sleep over it
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<adrianschmutzler> so I can stop reviewing that layerscape device additions PR :-)
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<mwalle> ynezz: hum? well I certainly don't have anything about removing the lsdk stuff (or at least for the kernel part) ;)
<mwalle> *against
<mwalle> the bootloader might make sense to have
<mwalle> ynezz: did you see my mail on the list?
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<grift> dangole, i am expecting SELinux 3.2 next week might want to start thinking about coordinating a package update
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<grift> should be some nice improvements with Linux 5.10
<dangole> grift: oh nice, another incoming 5.10 benefit
<dangole> grift: i already see everybody abandonning 21.02 release once it's out because mainline will be so much more fancy just days after
<grift> ues exciting
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<grift> i just hope there wont be any significant issues with busybox selinux code, but i guess we'll see
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<grift> i should send a beg e-mail to the original author of the busybox selinux patch Kaigai see if i can get him to modernize it
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<eduardas> hello, any people here who bought the Mango DVK from 8devices and are playing around with it?
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<KGB-1> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/openwrt/openwrt_tegra.html has been updated. (0% images and 98.2% packages reproducible in our current test framework.)
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<pkgadd> Borromini: pong
<pkgadd> rmilecki: adding the btn class to luci-advanced-reboot was only done to fix the button rendering with the openwrt2020 luci theme, not because of any (unknown, at that time) screenreader heuristics in mind
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<Borromini> pkgadd: hi. was about to ask something about the u-boot thing but forgot >_>. will get back to you when i remember
<pkgadd> it would surprise me if the gs1900-8hp v1/ v2 boards wouldn't need the smaller erase block size as well
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<pkgadd> you can steal /etc/fw_env.config from the gs1900-10hp for testing, it probably fails to decode ubootenv as-is, and starts working if you overwrite /etc/fw_env.config with the correct gs1900-10hp file
<Borromini> pkgadd: yeah had some help from bmork there, will check, thank
<Borromini> * thanks
<Borromini> brb
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<Borromini> guys, i'm using kermit to transfer an openwrt image over (tftp is wonky and keeps resetting)
<Borromini> instructions are for an image to be written, and use loadb $memory_address
<Borromini> can i do the same with an initramfs image or do i need another command for that? (remember i cannot tftboot since tft is wonky)
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<Borromini> ok seems it does not matter, i can still use loadb
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