12:52 <tankf33der> o/

12:52 <tankf33der> http://paulgraham.com/bel.html

12:52 <tankf33der> FYI

12:59 <Regenaxer> ok

13:07 <Regenaxer> So he gave up arc?

13:10 <tankf33der> a long ago already

13:10 <tankf33der> this is just noise and fun

13:10 <tankf33der> hype-like post

13:20 <Regenaxer> ☺

13:23 <jcowan> Ghu, numbers aren't primitive: integer n is a list of t's of the correct length

13:24 <jcowan> I should say natural numbers are

13:25 <Regenaxer> Perfect

13:31 <jcowan> OTOH, characters are primitive, and I don't see why they should be

13:31 <jcowan> you can really do it all with pairs and ()

13:32 <Regenaxer> Linke in pil too, only one single cell internal data type

13:32 <jcowan> well, cells, numbers, and symbols

13:33 <jcowan> Oh, sorry, misread

13:33 <Regenaxer> yes, but internally

13:33 <Regenaxer> :)

13:34 <jcowan> Externally, though, you have pairs, symbols, and numbers, whereas Bel has pairs, symbols, characters, and I/O streams

13:35 <Regenaxer> ok

13:35 <jcowan> bit streams, which seems a little too raw for me

13:35 <jcowan> also requires you to deal with bit-endianness issues

13:35 <Regenaxer> T

13:37 <jcowan> if a number is a list, then a character can be a number, a string is a list of numbers, and a symbol is a list of properties

13:37 <jcowan> hence pair and () only

13:38 <Regenaxer> Pure

13:38 <jcowan> I started to write an implementation of ISLisp in Common Lisp called Blesity, but got bogged down

13:41 <jcowan> but Lisp is a good old word; if Lisp had been invented in England 1000 years ago (which is possible in principle, just as a mathematical device) it would have been "Wlispjan"