cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<kenaan> Yannick_Jadoul py3.7-pep564 f0362a20d1a1 /: Adding ns-resolution function to time module
<kenaan> Yannick_Jadoul py3.7-pep564 fb46c09b060b /pypy/module/time/interp_time.py: Docstrings for time functions
<kenaan> Yannick_Jadoul py3.7-pep564 7798b261cc60 /pypy/module/time/test/test_time.py: Added tests for nanosecond-resolution time functions
<kenaan> Yannick_Jadoul py3.7-pep564 9741d65e2e03 /pypy/module/time/interp_time.py: Fix return type of edge-case of gettimeofday when only C's time() is available
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<kenaan> rlamy py3.7 48c567ce1caf /pypy/module/sys/: Add sys._framework attribute
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7786 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2164 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4919 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7786 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2164 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4919 [ronan: force build, py3.7]
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<arigato> YannickJadoul (log): I would guess it's because remainder() is C99 only
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<mattip_> arigato: when you have a change, could you merge py3.6 into default?
<mattip_> I am not sure what to do with the pypcode changes to ceate a nicer error message from issue 3109
<mattip_> s/change/chance
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<Dejan> pypy 3.6 works awesomely on my Pinebook Pro laptop :)
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<YannickJadoul> arigato: Right, that's probably it. I thought that fmod was also C99, but I misread
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<kenaan> bern...@inf.ethz.ch py3.7 04142a3f29de /pypy/objspace/std/: Implementing isascii for bytes and bytesarray (see bpo-32677)
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<cfbolz> Yay, sprint!
<Dejan> sprintf!
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<kenaan> schoelle py3.7 dc491b783ef7 /pypy/objspace/std/: Made fromhex ignore all whitespace (see bpo-28927)
<tos9> Cleaning out old HDs
<tos9> Rnadom photos from EP 2014 of arigato + Hodgestar: https://photos.app.goo.gl/79UocRcnS9u5aUeM9
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<arigato> mattip_: pff
<cfbolz> tos9: hehe, I threw out that t-shirt before our move this summer
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<Dejan> oops
<Dejan> I made it for myself, never mentioned in public about it until now :)
<cfbolz> Dejan: nice
<kenaan> schoelle py3.7 9f57693bca37 /lib_pypy/_ctypes/array.py: Checking for overflow in ctypes array creation (fixing test.test_ctypes)
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<kenaan> arigo py3.6 b2dc8d7edf61 /: hg merge default
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<mattip_> arigato: thanks. Maybe we should add a comment somehow to pyopcode that class creation moved to __pypy__.compiling.py
<arigato> that's clear enough I think
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<arigato> *of course* the manylinux build of cffi 1.13.1 is broken because it contains its own version of libffi.so, and that version is buggy
<arigato> $ yum install -y libffi libffi-devel
<arigato> that seems to install a buggy version
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<tumbleweed> yay :/
<arigato> I imagine there's no way to just use "yum" and get a more recent libffi?
<arigato> for now I'm fighting all the way into downloading and compiling libffi from sources, but it's a nightmare too
<arigato> it seems I'll need to yum install the whole large TeX packages
* tumbleweed doesn't know enough about the RH world :(
<arigato> I love how setting up azure pipelines feels like a high-flying waste of resources
<arigato> you tweak some shell script, commit it, go to the web page, see that it contains a typo, restart---so far OKish, but every time you do that, there's a complete docker VM being downloaded, and there's also OSX and Windows builds running to completion
<arigato> Windows builds in particular require downloading GBs of VMs
<arigato> so, every typo costs several GBs
<arigato> inot a waste at all
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<YannickJadoul> arigato: This is manylinux2010/CentOS 6, right? So in principle, it's still supported?
<YannickJadoul> There were some concerns about yum installing things on manylinux1, since these packages would be old and potentially without the latest security patches
<Alex_Gaynor> FWIW when we were building cffi wheels we built our own libffi
<YannickJadoul> On debugging CI configs: my condolences. It's a real pain. I'm still wondering if using CIs actually saved me time in the long run or not...
<arigato> Alex_Gaynor: bah. Yes, I'm also trying to install the "recent" version (2014) of libffi manually. Seems to work now
<arigato> this complete mess of distributing wheels certainly doesn't make me happy
<arigato> I will certainly look twice before doing more changes to cffi
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