<kyak> unclouded: hi! does sound in freedroid also work for you?
<unclouded> kyak: haven't tried enabling swap to try it yet.  strange as I thought SDL was supposed to stream music so I don't know why it needs so much memory
<unclouded> but all the other sounds work.  only the title music doesn't
<kyak> hm, all the other sound didn't work for me before..
<kyak> but ok, right now it seems to work.. just needs someone else to confirm :)
<mth> SDL can stream audio, but it's up to the app to load the audio in small parts instead of loading the entire file into memory
<unclouded> mth: so Mix_LoadMUS won't cut it then?
<mth> that's from SDL_Mixer, not SDL itself; I'm not familiar with that lib
<mth> "load" suggests it loads everything into memory, but check the API docs to be sure
<bartbes> mth: well, it's missing some scripts, the program itself runs
<bartbes> xiangfu: so why is scummvm broken?
<qi-bot> [commit] Carlos Camargo: Fix some errors on silkscreen layer http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/6c92e79
<xiangfu> bartbes: Hi. if there is some errors when compile. I will just mark it as BROKEN.
<xiangfu> bartbes: now I am compiling it again.
<bartbes> thanks!
<xiangfu> bartbes: it give me "openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:201: error: comma at end of enumerator list"
<bartbes> but.. that'd seem to be an error in one of the libs?
<bartbes> spotted the error in the header
<bartbes> checks the alsa package
<larsc> its a feature of newer gcc versions to complain about such "errors" in strict c99 mode
<bartbes> ;)
<bartbes> it's not a bug it's a feature
<bartbes> as always
<larsc> oh wait, it's c89
<larsc> in c99 it is valid
<bartbes> nice
<bartbes> but then
<larsc> maybe CFLAGS+=-std=gnu99 would work
<bartbes> I guess it's a simple compile-time option
<bartbes> yeah, that
<xiangfu> larsc: I will try to add it and compile again :)
<xiangfu> recompiling scummvm now.
<larsc> hm... scummvm seems to be written in cpp
<bartbes> oh that
<bartbes> if you do find a solution
<bartbes> please tell me
<bartbes> because I needed --std=gnu99 in a c++ app as well (lua's lnum)
<larsc> well, we could patch scummvms configure to not append -pedantic to its CXXFLAGS
<larsc> hm, calling configure with --disable-Werror should work aswell
<xiangfu> Running ScummVM configure...
<xiangfu> error: unrecognised option: --disable-Werror
<larsc> hm
<larsc> ah, I see in c++ it's even an error without -Werror
<larsc> so you have to patch configure to not append -pedantic
<xiangfu> larsc: yes. just found that.
<xiangfu> case $_host_os in
<xiangfu> gamecube | psp | wii)
<xiangfu>         ;;
<xiangfu> *)
<xiangfu>         CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -pedantic"
<viric> HMm I'll ask again about the kernel - sorry, but I still did not understand
<viric> THe openwrt-burst has patches over 2.6.32 to build the uImage
<viric> But the kernel branches at qi-hardware don't have the Makefiles patched to build the uImage
<viric> right?
<larsc> correct
<kristianpaul> too sooon :(
<lekernel> ?
<kristianpaul> 27c3 is this december right?
<larsc> yes
<larsc> xxc3 is always 27-30 december
<kristianpaul> yeah  too soon for to arrange VISA, tickets adn try to go to lekernel workshop :(
<lekernel> huh?
<kristianpaul> larsc: oh, i just discover this event last year :)
<lekernel> how long does it take you to get a visa?
<kristianpaul> in varies
<kristianpaul> s/in/it
<kristianpaul> 3 weeks orless
<lekernel> lol
<lekernel> it's in fucking december
<lekernel> you have plenty of time for your visa
<kristianpaul> well yes, i need the money first ;)
<kristianpaul> also tickets, acomodation...
<tuxbrain_mobile> hey what where the magic words to redirect pages on the wiki?
<larsc> #redirect
<larsc> #redirect [[other page]]
<lekernel> kristianpaul, as in every travel
<sdschulze> Hi -- are those USB gender changers you can buy only pieces of plugs and wire or do they really have two controllers inside?!
<kristianpaul> lekernel: sure :)
<kristianpaul> i just complain more that the ususal :)
<sdschulze> In other words, shouldn't it be possible to "tunnel" USB host traffic over a USB device, which itself acts as a host towards the actual device (like the NIC)?
<nebajoth> theory sounds good
<nebajoth> but I doubt the gender changes have controllers inside
<nebajoth> citation needed
<sdschulze> They're actually too cheap for this. :)
<sdschulze> And it would require Linux driver support.
<sdschulze> If someone already wrote a kind of driver for this, we would be a step further.
<sdschulze> imagines two AVRs, both acting as hosts and talking to each other via a UART or something.
<sdschulze> Do you have an idea how the USB host controller is implemented in the development board?
<sdschulze> Does the JZ47xx have it on-chip?
<sdschulze> Hm, there is a double arrow to the USB host.
<sdschulze> Does this mean "outside" the chip?
<viric> Hmmm what means that UBIFS says "scrubbed PEB 383 (LEB 0:381), data moved to PEB 1634
<viric> Anything wrong with the flash?
<viric> larsc: how can I, then, make the uImage for the kernel 2.6.34 in qi-hardware? Do I have to put the load addresses and all that by hand? What do you (kernel developers) use to build those, a not-public script?
<viric> larsc: I don't find the mkimage parameters trivial :)
<viric> larsc: and even less trivial those of zImage
<qi-bot> [commit] Carlos Camargo: Adding SAKC logo http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/f22d66d
<nebajoth> viric: you don't need to be alarmed by those messages
<nebajoth> its wear-levelling
<nebajoth> all flash does it
<nebajoth> at least all flash with wear levelling
<viric> nebajoth: ah. I don't even know what does that mean
<viric> How much I have to care about writing into the nanonote?
<nebajoth> none
<viric> ah ok
<viric> I'm doing some OS tests, and then I end up copying megabytes :)
<viric> and as I'm having troubles with the first sector of the nand...
<sdschulze> viric: Don't you build from OpenWRT?
<sdschulze> nebajoth: Oh, OK, the USB stuff is inside the SoC.
<larsc> viric: i'm using plain openwrt
<sdschulze> There are ways to tunnel USB over PCI, why wouldn't it be possible to tunnel USB over USB?
<sdschulze> I'd be almost surprised if that hadn't been done already.
<sdschulze> [Any kernel hackers here?]
<viric> sdschulze: no
<viric> larsc: then you apply those patches in openwrt for 2.6.32 to your tree of 2.6.34?
<larsc> viric: no. in openwrt are patches for 2.6.35
<viric> ah
<viric> m
<viric> those patches are to be put over the qi-hardware 2.6.35 branch, or over the mainline 2.6.35?
<viric> target/linux/generic-2.6 contains patches until 2.6.34 I think
<larsc> i'm talking about https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk
<viric> hm I was looking at the openwrt git repository in qi-hardware. Is that obsolete?
<larsc> nope
<larsc> its stable
<larsc> more or less
<viric> ah, the development goes in the openwrt trunk?
<larsc> yes
<viric> aaaaah
<viric> Sorry for asking that much. I don't know how to get that information other than asking :)
<viric> thank you
<viric> is there anything in that stable git repository that is not in the openwrt trunk?
<viric> and does the openwrt trunk even have patches for mplayer, for example?
<larsc> there might be some qi specific patches in there.
<larsc> but i'm not sure
<larsc> qi related packages are in the openwrt-packages repo at projects.qi-hardware
<viric> ok
<viric> they are not in openwrt trunk then
<larsc> correct
<viric> nice
<viric> there I don't see anything about mplayer
<viric> wasn't there some code for the SIMD instructions of the xburst?
<viric> or that is already in mplayer mailine?
<sdschulze> re
<sdschulze> My shitty Taiwanese computer had a hard lock-up...
<sdschulze> Actually, building a host that can handle two RNDIS devices shouldn't be *too* hard.
<sdschulze> Would there be demand? :)
<nebajoth> yup
<nebajoth> as long as it was cheap
<nebajoth> :P
<sdschulze> Hehe
<sdschulze> I just thought that the appearance of the Ya would make it superfluous immediatly.
<sdschulze> Hm, strange, my computer says the NanoNote is RNDIS, but itself, it claims to be ECM.
<sdschulze> For owners of the devboard, it is already superfluous.
<sdschulze> Hm, couldn't you even get the USB 1.1 out of the NanoNote with a tiny bit of hardware hacking?
<sdschulze> ???
<sdschulze> Pins 106 and 107 are totally unconnected in the NanoNote.
<sdschulze> In the devboard, they go out quite directly from the case.
<sdschulze> The only thing added is a 5V voltage source.
<sdschulze> Are there *any* objections to using those pins?
<SiENcE> hi
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: 8 counterweights are already cast. only the paint is missing.
<wpwrak> rafa: diego is now working on the others :)
<rafa> wpwrak: cool!.. he could add some art to the solderings perhaps ;)
<wpwrak> rafa: at them moment, he's adding artful air pockets :)
<rafa> wpwrak: visitors here.. really busy days :P
<tuxbrain> sdschulze: Bas has answered you on the list, believe him. No way
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: naw, let him try. more sales and maybe a technological breakthrough :)
<tuxbrain> wpwrak: then you have 80% of a beer earned
<tuxbrain> wpwrak: We are big enough to hire, I want you as my costumer relationship manager :P
<wpwrak> (beer) we're at 10 now. i'm making a new cast, though. the old one is looking a bit charred. had already more than 20 cycles.
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: what was previously known as the customers complaint department ? :)
<tuxbrain> yeah but complaint doesn't sound cool
<bartbes> so now your customers don't complain, they relate to you
<bartbes> much better
<wpwrak> they re-late to you and and you can be-rate them back :)
<tuxbrain> costumer care, post-sales, hotline, costumer assistance, support.... euphemistic names for the old well know complaint department
<bartbes> costumer care
<bartbes> heh
<bartbes> "Take care of the customers"
<bartbes> gets knife
<bartbes> or ehm
<bartbes> "Day care was closed" "Are you a customer?" "Yes" "Then come in!"
<tuxbrain> hey I forget the FOSS euphemistic one: Track list :P
<tuxbrain> larsc: or of course any one else.
<tuxbrain> where I can download the 2.6.36 kernel with our code there in a tarball
<wpwrak> larsc: do you have an AVT2 ?
<tuxbrain> I have no intentions to compile (yet) but I want to do some good header picture for the post announcing it
<larsc> tuxbrain: i don't think there is a tarbal yet
<larsc> wpwrak: yes
<tuxbrain> any way to achive the source code without the git control files?
<wpwrak> larsc: USB host is available then, i guess ? (haven't tried anything myself yet. just wondering, seeing all those cries for help on the list)
<larsc> wpwrak: yes it does work
<wpwrak> larsc: kewl. thanks !
<larsc> tuxbrain: rm them ;)
<tuxbrain> touche!, can you giveme give me the git order to checkout it?
<larsc> git clone it://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
<trebuchet> my mom is calling my cat sexy
<trebuchet> wrong channel
<larsc> tuxbrain: `make tarbz2-pkg` builds an archive for the kernel source
<larsc> tuxbrain: see `make help`
<tuxbrain> thanks !
<tuxbrain> once I make the image I will ask you for help to localize our piece of code on it :)
<wpwrak> larsc: so absolutely everything is upstream now ?
<larsc> wpwrak: no. i did not submit the usb gadget driver and the driver for the lcm, because they need some more cleanup
<larsc> wpwrak: and not all trees have been merged by linus. sound for example is still missing
<tuxbrain> 20%=225Mb so 100% arround 1.1Gb, wow
<tuxbrain> ehem that why you have to wait until the end "only" 377.43 MiB of c code...
<zednano> ircing from nano in bed with wifi
<tuxbrain> zednano: :) go to sleep and stop doing the freak also in bed dude :)
<tuxbrain> envy zednano
<zednano> tuxbrain trying to justify spending crazy amount on the wifi card
<zednano> works well tho for irc
<tuxbrain> hehehe sleeping with it can be way yes....
<zednano> grins at tuxbrain
<wpwrak> larsc: pretty close then. nice.
<tuxbrain> FYI, I'm trying to make a kernel diagram of the 2.6.36 kernel like this one http://fcgp.sourceforge.net/images/lgp-total.png, and then localize our piece of code on it :)
<tuxbrain> the script seems to run fine , let's see the results
<tuxbrain> but I think I will go to sleep and see results tomorow good night
<wpwrak> tuxbrain_zzz: btw, any color preferences for the counterweight ? default color will be black
<tuxbrain_zzz> yes I think black is the right choise
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Improved the mold for better yield. http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-counterweight/e910ea0
<wolfspraul> andres_calderon: hey Andres :-)
<andres_calderon> hey Wolfgang
<wolfspraul> werner is wpwrak
<wolfspraul> he lives in Buenos Aires and speaks Spanish :-)
<andres_calderon> nice, Werner is  online? is OK to speak Spanish in this channel?
<wolfspraul> of course why not in Spanish?
<wolfspraul> I don't know whether he is online
<wolfspraul> but he will definitely see it later
<andres_calderon> for consistency in the historical record...
<andres_calderon> We need a "Lars" for LM32 :)
<wpwrak> he's online and speaks spanish so-so but writes it really poorly :)
<wolfspraul> ok maybe I oversell you :-)
<andres_calderon> I think I can help to support  the kernel. But I prefer to work in HDL.
<wolfspraul> wpwrak: Andres is the guy behind the Xue camera, a camera around the Milkymist SoC
<wolfspraul> he tried to do it entirely in KiCad (schematics + layout)
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: btw, you'll like this: ti also have a 2.45 GHz compliance-with-regulations document ;-)
<andres_calderon> hi Werner, como está, mi ingles es bastante malo..
<wpwrak> andres_calderon: and, how did things go with kicad ?
<roh> i wonder whats the documentation/foss situation with the wilink wifi from ti (used in n900 and so)
<wpwrak> andres_calderon: quizas la solucion seria que vos escribis en castellano y yo en ingles :)
<wpwrak> roh: "this product is for high-volume customers [...]", something in that sense
<wpwrak> roh: or, "go away, plebs !" :)
<andres_calderon> I am just learning to use kicad. I am a "Orcad man"
<andres_calderon> Bien Werner
<wpwrak> andres_calderon: kicad still misses lots of things, but some people have succeeded to do complex projects with it
<wpwrak> s/misses/lacks/
<roh> wpwrak i see.. too bad. their drivers seem to work properly ;)
<roh> WL1251
<andres_calderon> wpwrak el hecho de que todo es un archivo de texto es muy útil, eso me gusta..
<wpwrak> andres_calderon: yes ! and my scripts ! :)
<andres_calderon> wpwrak hay uno monton de problemas de usabilidad.... pero poder usar script da mucho poder
<andres_calderon> wpwrak solo he escrito un par de scripts en python, ahora puedo generar componentes a partir de archivos de Xilinx y de archivos de simulación IBIS
<andres_calderon> wpwrak i am using the fped, is very interesting.
<wpwrak> sorry ... a bit of an interruption ... visitor ...
<wolfspraul> emeb|mac: hey, early rise? :-)
<wolfspraul> it's a good coincidence, Andres Calderon the founder of the Xue project is also here - andres_calderon
<andres_calderon> wpwrak Do You know the Topological Autorouter project for PCB Geda?     http://anthonix.resnet.scms.waikato.ac.nz/toporouter/
<andres_calderon> hi emeb|mac