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<kristianpaul> :-)
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<gradient> hello. I have a monitor with audio output jack. But he doesn't work. Can anyone advice me how to get it work?
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<wpwrak> most likely, the jack is miffed because he called her "a he" ...
<roh> he werner *g*
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<DocScrutinizer05> http://neo900.org/
<roh> DocScrutinizer05: hrhrhr
* DocScrutinizer05 smiles
<roh> was the n900 was the one with or without keyboard?
<DocScrutinizer05> dang, dos1 used a photo where no kbd shown. Silly
<DocScrutinizer05> N900 has qwerty
<roh> heh
<wpwrak> nice !
<mth> N9 is the one without a keyboard
<DocScrutinizer05> yep, the coffin
<DocScrutinizer05> piece of junk
<DocScrutinizer05> with a perverted "linux" that implements tivoization on a whole new previously unseen level, via "aegis"
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: AWESOME!
<wpwrak> thanks, NSA ;-)
<wpwrak> it all of a sudden got really easy to explain the benefits of open source software/hardware to people ;-)
<larsc> nobody uses it, so the nsa doesn't target it ;)
<whitequark> a formally verified browser kernel.
<wpwrak> btw, the openphoenux logo looks a lot like a satellite dish. took me a while to realize it was a bird.
<cde> wpwrak: imo the real issue with openmoko is the closed source nature of many components (baseband, gpu, dsp etc.)
<wpwrak> well, openmoko tried to avoid them to the largest extent possible, and compartmentalized those one can't avoid.
<wpwrak> and there were no closed drivers/libraries on gta02. (gta01 has a closed lib for the gps chip. we didn't catch that one in time.)
<cde> btw the Replicant guys have done some nice work on Samsung hw. I tried it a couple months ago, it was very usable
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<roh> DocScrutinizer05: i just was asked: why N900 and not N950?
<DocScrutinizer05> because N950 cases nowhere
<DocScrutinizer05> btw the N950 kbd is awfull
<DocScrutinizer05> basically as bad a the Eten M800
<DocScrutinizer05> keys are hardly distinguishable from their neighbours
<DocScrutinizer05> access to kbd (the flip-up), though looking cute and in the end resulting in a nice angle between kbd and screen, is annoyingly clumsy
<DocScrutinizer05> nobody using N950 ever said the kbd was better than N900
<DocScrutinizer05> despite larger
<DocScrutinizer05> (4 instead of 3 rows)
<DocScrutinizer05> but the answer is: there are no spare parts for N950. Zilch. Nada
<DocScrutinizer05> not even at Nokia
<DocScrutinizer05> of course N950 case would have a massive selling point just for the mere idiocy of N950-original prices at ebay. up to 2000EUR
<DocScrutinizer05> but that's more of an idea how to make money from weirdos
<wpwrak> nice :) should have bought a countainer full of them
<DocScrutinizer05> and it's unclear if those weirdos who buy N950 for 2k bucks are really interested in a look-alike made by Not-Nokia
<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: that's the point, you never been able to do that
<DocScrutinizer05> there are ~2..5k N950 out in the wild
<DocScrutinizer05> you either needed to be maemo-developer and apply with a N9 project you need a devel-dev for, or you needed to be commercial developer registered at Nokia
<wpwrak> ah, i see. or work at the factory and be good friends with the security guards ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> either case you were not allowed to sell the device for iirc 2 years at least
<wpwrak> well, it just accumulates value :)
<DocScrutinizer05> I think a few (5?) were trophy of harmattan coding contest
<DocScrutinizer05> a frightening number of devices developed display defects, probably caused by the mechanics for this clumsy flip-up pushing the LCD from behind
<DocScrutinizer05> an absolutely amazing alliteration
<DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05> roh: anything else you were asked? :-) I'm happy to answer
<wpwrak> what was the mechanical problem ? plastic not strong enough ?
<roh> DocScrutinizer05: nope :)
<roh> proper founded answer... relayed it back.
<roh> write both the question and the answer in a faq ;)
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<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: the hinge has two tiny spots where it supports the display, at 1/3 and 2/3 of display width and halfway of the height. those will push backside of LCD and cause defects
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<wpwrak> so the hinges break ?
<roh> nope. just the flex of the mechanics is too big to distribute the load properly
<roh> so the lcm gets flex/pressurepoints from the back and thus fails at some point
<roh> ive seen that defect on a n950 too, but thought it was less common
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<wpwrak> oh dear. that's an unfortunate one. just adding a little metal plate would avoid that ...
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