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<zenspider> flog version 3.2.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2012/12/flog-version-3-2-0-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> flay version 2.0.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2012/12/flay-version-2-0-1-has-been-released.html
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<headius> zenspider: are you considering moving any of your parsetree-based libs to ripper?
<headius> I've reluctantly accepted that ripper may be the LCD we just have to support for such things
<headius> parsetree-based or ruby_parser-based
<zenspider> headius: the more I look at ripper the less I think it is a good idea
<headius> I thought I was the only one
<zenspider> haha... hardly
<zenspider> ruby19 -rripper -rpp -e "pp Ripper.sexp \"I'm a little teapot\""
<headius> enebo's working on it this week, so we'll have it and people will use it, but I'm not thrilled
<zenspider> he better match it bug for bug :P
<headius> luckily our parser is so close to theirs it's actually possible to support
<headius> hah
<headius> we've been too good at that, unfortunately
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<whitequark> ruby heredocs are insane: http://pastie.org/5551686
<whitequark> you can use \ at the end of a line with heredocs to continue the current expression after all heredocs.
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<drbrain> whitequark: yes
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<whitequark> also nesting: http://pastie.org/5551729
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<whitequark> drbrain: I'm currently writing a sane ruby lexer in ruby and documenting how the hell the thing actually works.
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<drbrain> whitequark: n0kada told me you can write 0d1234 today
<whitequark> drbrain: yes
<whitequark> drbrain: what I have: http://pastie.org/5551763
<drbrain> what is fbreak?
<whitequark> internal ragel (the FSM generator I use) command which returns the main loop
<drbrain> ah, ok
<whitequark> *returns from
<yorickpeterse> Morning
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<soahccc> If I have a nested config hash and I want to replace placeholders in each value (at least assuming there could be one everywhere) do I have to build a new hash? I think I can't just traverse the hash and change! (what is the more specific word?) the string, can I?
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<whitequark> soahccc: #gsub!
<soahccc> whitequark: I thought a string would be a real copy and those shallow copies only apply to referencing values
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<soahccc> And what is the word for directly changing something? :) I don't even remember it in my language. Not transform but argh it's on the tip of my tongue
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<whitequark> soahccc: mutating
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<jammanbo> Why does 1.0.respond_to?(:dup) => true, and yet 1.0.dup => TypeError: allocator undefined for Float
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<whitequark> jammanbo: because Float instances have a #dup method, but never succeeds
<injekt> jammanbo: if the method didn't exist, you would get a NoMethod exception not a TypeError
<whitequark> you cannot do Float.new either. the only way to get a Float instance is through specifying a literal, performing arithmetics or unmarshalling it
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<whitequark> *but it
<jammanbo> Okay. Is that not a bit of an odd decision though? Would No Method or something else not make more sense?
<injekt> or using Float() which i believe just does .to_f and raises on nil
<injekt> jammanbo: no, dup exists on Object, it's overriden and a better exception is raised
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<jammanbo> Hmm, I guess.
<jammanbo> thanks
<rindolf> Hi all. Can anyone help with this problem - http://paste.debian.net/217195/ ? I'm on Mageia Linux 3/x86-64 .
<rindolf> /usr/share/ruby/gems/gems/compass-0.12.2/lib/compass/frameworks.rb:60:in `initialize': No such file or directory - /usr/share/ruby/gems/gems/compass-0.12.2/frameworks (Errno::ENOENT)
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<yorickpeterse> Tried re-installing compass?
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<rindolf> yorickpeterse: I found out what the problem is here - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600206
<rindolf> Now it's OK.
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<charliesome> surprise surprise, debian packages for ruby libs are broken
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<judofyr> hey folks
<judofyr> veeeeeeery silent here today
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<injekt> aye
<injekt> I guess wednesdays are productive
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<darix> do you have to be so loud? some people try to sleep here.
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<judofyr> I did more work on the Leo Fractal yesterday, but for every time I try to write it, I discover ways to improve it
* ddfreyne casts Disspell Curse of Silence II
<ddfreyne> judofyr: leo fractal?
<judofyr> e.g. I just realized that I can store the sorted arrays as you would store a binary heap and get more cache hits when querying it
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<judofyr> I think I've managed to get search down to average O(log n) and inserts into amortized O(log n)-ish (I don't have a proof, so it might be worse)
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<judofyr> but yeah, I still haven't figured out removals :/
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<ddfreyne> Nice... cool literature :)
<judofyr> it's pretty fun to play with :)
<judofyr> now I'm trying to merge two sorted arrays with fractal cascading with less than O(m+n) comparisons
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<judofyr> well, actually two sorted arrays + one single element
<judofyr> surprisingly tricky :/
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<whitequark> sigh. ?\q => "q", ?\ы => "\\ы"
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<judofyr> whitequark: isn't it fun to implement a Ruby parser?
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<telemachus> judofyr: I think my Kickstarter idea is gold. Show me the money.
<judofyr> telemachus: what are the pledge levels?
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<telemachus> Oh, levels.
<telemachus> Hmm.
<telemachus> We've got levels
<telemachus> Let's see: donut level, most basic. That's enough to buy me a donut one day over break.
<telemachus> Call that $1
<telemachus> You get an instagram photo of the donut
<telemachus> Then there's gyro level - buy me a gyro and fries one afternoon.
<telemachus> You get a photo and an email thanking you
<telemachus> It moves up from there.
<telemachus> :)
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<seydar> what happened to using retry in method definitions?
<seydar> i miss it and i want it back
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<banisterfiend> seydar: u can get similar by wrapping your method body in a block and calling redo
<banisterfiend> seydar: def pig; proc { ..code here..; redo }.call }; end
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<seydar> banisterfiend: ah, thank you. i forgot about 'redo'
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<seydar> luckily, i took the fact that i needed redo as a code smell and i put in a better solution
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<Smol> has anyone ported fpdf.rb to work with 1.9?
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<reactormonk> Smol, that usually isn't that hard, just do it yourself
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<outoftime> anyone run into an issue where bundler acts as if a newer version of a bundled gem doesn't exist in the repo?
<outoftime> 'bundle update' has no effect, and hard-coding the newer version in the Gemfile causes it to throw an error saying it couldn't find that gem version
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<stevechiagozie> outoftime: to get the latest bundler 'gem update bundler'
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<outoftime> stevechiagozie: tried that : )
<outoftime> i even blew away all of my gems and reinstalled from scratch -- no luck
<stevechiagozie> oops read that wrong. thought you were looking for the latest bundler
<stevechiagozie> you're looking for latest bundled gem
<outoftime> yep
<stevechiagozie> there is probably a dependency that is pinning one of your gems at the current version
<outoftime> negative -- tried it with a fresh Gemfile specifying only that gem
<outoftime> okay, well, i took the fairly obvious step of manually installing the gem, and bundler seems to be down with it now.
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<outoftime> probably my crappy internet connection is causing it to fail updating the rubygems cache
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<ryanf> charliesome: I really really think you should limit better_errors to localhost requests by default
<ryanf> it's one thing to have a reasonable amount of trust in the people on the same network as you, and another one to offer every single one of them root access to your machine
<ryanf> especially in a world where conferences, coffee shops, coworking spaces, etc exist
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<epitron> ryanf: hear hear!
<epitron> that's the most cogent argument for localhost yet :)
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<cddr> Must retry be in the lexical context of a begin/rescue?
<drbrain> cddr: yes
<cddr> Doh!
<drbrain> in 1.8 this was not true
<drbrain> cddr: there is also redo
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<blazes816> Any ideas why the presence of a utf8 only character makes Ruby consider the encoding during comparison, but with no utf8 only chars it works? https://gist.github.com/4341762
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<drbrain> blazes816: ruby will upgrade one string to the other's encoding
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<drbrain> if they are compatible
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<blazes816> drbrain: looking at string.c (rb_str_cmp) it looks like it checks to see if they're compatible, but doesn't change the encoding. it compares the encodings. unless i'm misunderstanding this.
<blazes816> https://gist.github.com/4341815 lines 14-16
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<drbrain> blazes816: if they have identical content (line 11) and the encodings are compatible (line 13) return equal (line 18)
<drbrain> … and lengths (line 12)
<blazes816> oh crap, you're right. okay thanks.
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<zenspider> rawr
<zenspider> ruby_parser version 3.1.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2012/12/ruby_parser-version-3-1-1-has-been-released.html
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