apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.3; 2.0.0-p576; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<jdecuirm> Hi all!
<jhass> hi
<jdecuirm> I am working with method_missing from Ruby with the book The Well Grounded Rubyist, but i don't know how to test the method! i created and object! to test it, but i hope you can tell me how to test!
<jdecuirm> hey jhass! good night!
<jdecuirm> Here is my code!
<existensil> method_missing gets sent symbols
<existensil> you aren't doing that
<jhass> jdecuirm: method_missing gets called after the regular method lookup doesn't find a method
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<existensil> you also aren't using the other ways to end sentences outside of exclamation marks
<jdecuirm> that means that i just have to call over the class object the method?
<jhass> >> class Foo; def method_missing(*args); args; end; end; Foo.new.not_me(:foo)
<existensil> ;-)
<eval-in_> jhass => [:not_me, :foo] (https://eval.in/201310)
<jdecuirm> Can you explain me with code? :c
<jhass> I think I just did
<jdecuirm> hahahaha right
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<jdecuirm> in fact what i want to try is to raise the error
<jhass> on a side note I recommend using #public_send over #send
<jhass> and if you define a method_missing you should define respond_to_missing? too
<jdecuirm> oh, nice to know
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<jdecuirm> is that i'm coding with the book
<jdecuirm> so, that was the example
<jdecuirm> but the writer does not test it
<jhass> thus "on a side note"
<jdecuirm> just put the code there, i'm figuring out how to test it
<jdecuirm> and of course what PEOPLE << self means
<jdecuirm> i guess it stores an object every time i create one
<jdecuirm> but i'm guessing
<jhass> you're right
<jhass> line 7
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<jdecuirm> but it is a constant, right?
<jhass> it is, why the "but"?
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<jdecuirm> but it's not an array, so, how the objects are stored without overriding the value?
<jhass> it is an array
<jhass> line 2
<jdecuirm> forget it
<jdecuirm> it is an array lol
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<existensil> you shouldn't be mutating constants, but unless you've called freeze or something that array will allow you to mess with it all you want, assigned to a constant or not
<jdecuirm> so, if i call a method that does not exist in my class Person, like Person.all_with_hobbies should an error will raise?
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<jhass> depends
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<jhass> since you defined a method_missing that reacts to it, that specific example won't
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<jdecuirm> oh
<jdecuirm> cool,
<jdecuirm> you are absolutely right!
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<jdecuirm> maybe because i'm not printing anything lol
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<jhass> `p` to the rescue! ;)
<jdecuirm> what is args[0] doing?!
<jdecuirm> with this
<jdecuirm> person.send(attr).include?(args[0])
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<jhass> do you understand the def foo(*args) syntax?
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<jdecuirm> well
<jdecuirm> the *args
<jdecuirm> is like an array
<jdecuirm> it can take from zero to many values
<jdecuirm> right?
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<jhass> right
<jdecuirm> it sponges to take values
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<jhass> let's call them arguments or parameters here ;)
<jdecuirm> yes sorry
<jdecuirm> there are required arguments
<jdecuirm> arguments with default values
<jdecuirm> optional arguments
<jdecuirm> as far as i remember lol
<jhass> so, def self.method_missing(m,*args), m is the method name, and args collects any parameters passed to the original method call
<jdecuirm> oh my god i love you xd
<jdecuirm> i forgot the parameter lol
<jdecuirm> as it is optional
<jdecuirm> it does not care if i call the method without parameter
<jdecuirm> but when i do it returns me the person with the hobbie("code")
<jdecuirm> for example
<jhass> yeah, you would get back the persons with `nil` as friend/hobby ;)
<jhass> since [][0] #=> nil
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<jdecuirm> true!
<jdecuirm> you are a genius! xd
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<jdecuirm> well, the tricky part or maybe i'm not seeing it
<jdecuirm> is for example
<jdecuirm> f method.start_with?("all_with_")
<jdecuirm> attr = method[9..-1]
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<jdecuirm> ok, i know that means it will check if the method begins with all_with_, then attr gets the full name like all_with_friends
<jdecuirm> but there is no public method called all_with_friends, i just have has_friend, how that works? :0
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<jhass> okay, first the method[9...-1]
<jhass> method is :all_with_friends
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<jhass> "all_with_".size is 9
<jhass> -1 goes to the end
<jhass> so that extracts "friends"
<jhass> that means we're looking for a friends method
<jhass> and line 3 defines it
<jdecuirm> right! the getter/reader method!
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<jdecuirm> so
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<jdecuirm> from 9 to -1 it's "friends"
<jhass> yes
<jdecuirm> oh, so if i go from 0 to -1 it's the full name all_with_friends, right?
<jhass> right
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<jdecuirm> thanks a lot jhass! now i get the full picture!
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<jdecuirm> jhass! in the example i sent you, will not be the same to give @hobbies and @friends attr_accessor? meaning that has_hobby and has_friend are setter/writer methods?
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<jhass> no, a writer sets the value of an instance variable, has_hobby/friend modify the object the corresponding variable currently points to
<jdecuirm> because they are arrays right?
<jhass> because it's just different things
<jdecuirm> xd
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ljarvis> moin
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: haven't seen you around here in a while
<ljarvis> yeah I got busy
<yorickpeterse> suuuuureeee
<yorickpeterse> excuses
<ljarvis> you miss me?
<yorickpeterse> yes
<yorickpeterse> (¯ε¯ )
<ljarvis> :D
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<yorickpeterse> YES, I get to phone a recruiter to tell them to bugger off
<yorickpeterse> dis gun be gud
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<tbuehlmann> you could talk an hour long about oga
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<yorickpeterse> haha
<yorickpeterse> "HELLO SIR DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT FOR THE WORD OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR OGA?"
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<whitequark> fucking ruby and its fucking parser. the mis-feature that allows you to omit parens in method calls and definitions is probably responsible for 2/3rd of its complexity
<whitequark> this is why you will never have nice tooling, rubyists. this is why.
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: a couple of days ago a coworker: "hey, there's this new xml parser which tries to take on nokogiri. oga. have you heard of it?" :D
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros: heh
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: part of the problem is MRI maintainers still considering MRI as "the one true thing"
<yorickpeterse> and not "oh this might break 15 million other projects"
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<whitequark> the problem is that MRI never was and will never be a language implementation. rather, it's a heap of organically grown C code that executes some kind of text
<whitequark> have you seen @mbj's twitter? turns out segfaulting MRI with pure Ruby code is so easy, he doesn't report the errors, as there would be too many
<whitequark> this is a sign of your implementation being Really Broken.
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<yorickpeterse> one of but many reasons I spend (or at least have spent) a shitload of time of moving away from MRI to Rbx
<whitequark> rbx, the implementation that *still* shits out on Travis for some bogus reason
<yorickpeterse> if only Nokogiri wasn't across our entire codebase
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: up until very recently Travis ran an outdated version of Rbx
<yorickpeterse> even though we asked many times to have it updated
<yorickpeterse> maybe my code is special, but I've had very few problems with Rbx itself
<whitequark> I think basically every project that I tried to move to rbx caused some rbx bugreports
<yorickpeterse> did you report those?
<whitequark> even ast, which is like, 100 lines
<whitequark> yes
<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius/issues?q=is%3Aissue+author%3Awhitequark+is%3Aclosed only seeing like 9 here, of which only 6 looks like actualy bugs
<whitequark> that sounds about right
<yorickpeterse> That's not meant as some backhanded reply, but too many times we get people saying "Oh I Got this bug....but I didn't report it"
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<yorickpeterse> also people who just blindly migrate to Scale/Go, lol
<whitequark> Scala*
<yorickpeterse> "So we rewrote parts of our stuff in Scala" "Have you tried JRuby and/or Rubinius?" "eh...no"
<whitequark> it is STILL broken
<yorickpeterse> ^ quite a few people on Baruco
<yorickpeterse> errr yeah, scala
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: that has nothing to do with Rbx
<whitequark> well lol, it only happens on rbx
<whitequark> ugh
<yorickpeterse> We'll probably patch that soon in Rbx, we're not going to wait for RG 2.5
<yorickpeterse> unless that will be released soon (tm)
<yorickpeterse> Either way, MRI isn't a platform I'd want to run my web 3.0 Cloudscale platform on
<yorickpeterse> even now with their "semver" you have no idea if minor levels break things
<yorickpeterse> and well, they do
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: minor? how about patch versions
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<yorickpeterse> err yeah those too
<whitequark> "sure, let me just backport some syntax from 2.2 into 1.9.3"
<whitequark> I should start a Ruby Haters Handbook
<Hanmac> i would not surprised if someone still wants to have syntax backported from 2.2 to 1.8.7 ...
<whitequark> 1.8.7 is dead for good... although I still maintain the parser on and for it
<yorickpeterse> well they do keep necro-ing 1.8 once in a while
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<yorickpeterse> Fuck, it's 2014 and Pivotal Tracker still takes a decade to load
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<yorickpeterse> I've seens it
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<yorickpeterse> Geenstijl, a rather well known Dutch website (super right wing) is already poking fun at it
<yorickpeterse> (they're usually known for harassing politicians in amazing ways)
<yorickpeterse> also they organized an official protest against recording videos vertically
<whitequark> lol
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<yorickpeterse> the best part is the fake IS flag
<whitequark> I can't wait for zenspider to start implementing 2.1 and 2.2 features
<yorickpeterse> you mean never?
<whitequark> I think he did some 2.1 ones
<whitequark> it means I'll get to do Pedantic Reporting of MRI Bug-for-bug Compatibility again :}
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: so I have this great idea
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: every time you fix parser, take a shot of alcohol
<yorickpeterse> A few patch levels in you'll finally understand everything of parse.y
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<yorickpeterse> plus we get to read funny drunk tweets
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I'm not funny when I drunk.
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<whitequark> I'm not even more angry, because that's physically impossible.
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<yorickpeterse> pffft
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<Dededede4> Hello
<oddmunds> hello
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<Dededede4> exec('mv output/*/*.vtt '+output+'/'+suffix+'_thumbs.vtt')
<Dededede4> exec('mv output/*/*.jpg '+output+'/'+suffix+'_sprite.jpg')
<Dededede4> Only the first line is executed. There I only .vtt if I reverse the lines I have jpg
<Dededede4> :/
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: I went to town on it https://github.com/seattlerb/ruby_parser/issues
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<yorickpeterse> haha
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<Dededede4> my solution : use one exec() for make all.
<ljarvis> wow
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<palmertime> Im trying to compile ruby on a solaris 10 system and want to use a different openssl version than the one install on the system. How can i compile ruby to utilize this newer version?
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<apeiros> Dededede4: exec *replaces* the current process
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<whitequark> palmertime: ./configure --with-openssl=
<palmertime> whitequark: Thanks for the info, i'll try that now.
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<palmertime> whitequark: It didn't work! :( not sure what i am doing wrong.
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<blueness> is there a git repo for ruby?
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<Mon_Ouie> There's a mirror on github, but the official repo uses SVN
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<blueness> Mon_Ouie, thanks
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<kristenk> Hello
<kristenk> Anyone there to field a question related to Ruby & CentOS?
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<kristenk> brb-lunch
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<yxhuvud> kristenk: don't ask to ask a question. Simply ask the question
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<kristenk> hello
<kristenk> so i'm trying to deploy a ruby app (website, http api)
<kristenk> when i run bundle exec rake db:migrate
<kristenk> i receive an error message:LoadError: cannot load such file -- websocket_mask
<kristenk> btw I'm running CentOS
<kristenk> 6.4 Final.
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<kristenk> I have ruby 1.9.3, installed via Software Collection (SCL) repositories
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<yxhuvud> have you run bundle install?
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<kristenk> yeah
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<kristenk> no errors
<darix> kristenk: is the app public?
<darix> are you running bungle exec in the right software collection?
<darix> as far as i know you have to prefix it with some "sc" or so
<darix> (disclaimer: i am not really using this stuff, that is just something that stuck from a discussion with the fedora ruby maintainer)
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<kristenk> i've found when installing ruby via yum, that the centos repository only installs ruby 1.8.x, but I need 1.9.3 for the application
<kristenk> so i yum'd scl
<kristenk> then installed ruby 193 via SCL
<kristenk> repository
<darix> kristenk: yes
<kristenk> just updated the PATH for my ruby binaries
<kristenk> so i can just use ruby sans any prefix or suffix
<darix> kristenk: check head $(which bundle)
<darix> if it calls the correct ruby for bundle
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<kristenk> so execute, " check head $(which bundle)" ?
<darix> just
<darix> head $(which bundle)
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<kristenk> #!/opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/bin/ruby
<kristenk> #
<kristenk> #
<kristenk> # The application 'bundler' is installed as part of a gem, and
<kristenk> # This file was generated by RubyGems.
<kristenk> # this file is here to facilitate running it.
<kristenk> #
<kristenk> require 'rubygems'
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<darix> kristenk: 1. you didnt have to paste it. 2. the first line would have been enough
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<kristenk> okay
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<kristenk> ok
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<zenspider> whitequark: oi. thanks for the metric fuckton of issues on ruby_parser
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<zenspider> kristenk: when you switch from 1.8 to 1.9 you really should reinstall all your gems anyways
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<zenspider> fixes the gem wrappers, but also recompiles binary gems which would cause ruby 1.9 to crash if they loaded 1.8 gems
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<kristenk> if i run bundle install for my application (req. ruby 1.9) it should download the gems specific for 1.9, yes?
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<kristenk> i checked my gem environment
<kristenk> and it points to a few directories storing gems
<zenspider> should. yeah.
<kristenk> 2 directories that's an extension of the path where my ruby193 binary is stored
<kristenk> and
<zenspider> the problem is ppl using this broken notion of "gemsets" and essentially sharing gems across (potentially) multiple versions of rubies
<kristenk> ahhh
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<kristenk> well i initially installed ruby 1.8 via yum
<kristenk> prior to getting SCL
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<kristenk> and uninstalled it prior to installing 1.9, so i am assuming that the removal of 1.8 also removed 1.8-related gems
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<kristenk> zenspider are you still there?
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<kristenk> heading out. will be back later
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