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xarc>
hi, i am having issues with builder gem
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xarc>
i installed it but the program that depends on it does not it see it installed
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xarc>
i meant bundler
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apeiros>
xarc: you'll have to provide more info than that
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seydar>
what's the recommended way to do custom logging in rack?
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havenwood>
xarc: sudo yum install ruby-devel
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xarc>
havenwood: it is already installed
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xarc>
Package ruby-devel-2.0.0.353-20.el7.x86_64 already installed and latest version
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xarc>
Nothing to do
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havenwood>
xarc: oh, xml2-config
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havenwood>
xarc: i guess that'd be: sudo yum install libxml2-devel
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xarc>
havenwood: same error
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xarc>
that did not solve the issue :/
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havenwood>
xarc: sudo yum install libxslt libxslt-devel
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xarc>
havenwood: thanks
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havenwood>
xarc: you're welcome
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Guest8101>
Is anybody here?
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apeiros>
he's gone
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[spoiler]>
Who's gone
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apeiros>
klmlfl: it's not within a string
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apeiros>
'I
*really* like ' # string ends at second '
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jhass>
klmlfl: That's using the String#+ method two times, it creates one string out of three
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apeiros>
and then it's just what jhass said.
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klmlfl>
oh wow, you're right! thanks!
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jhass>
note that we prefer to use "string #{interpolation}"
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apeiros>
jhass beat me to it
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klmlfl>
Yea, me too.
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klmlfl>
i totally do too
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jhass>
and snake_case for variable names
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apeiros>
and proc over Proc.new
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klmlfl>
wait, i think i messed up.
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apeiros>
you need " for #{}
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apeiros>
and you missed doYouLike ;-)
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jhass>
and do_you_like ;)
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apeiros>
and Proc != proc
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klmlfl>
i'm confused on one thing.
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apeiros>
so close, yet so far :D
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klmlfl>
what's up with Proc vs. proc?
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apeiros>
Proc is a constant. proc is a method.
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apeiros>
in most programming languages, case matters
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jhass>
now there's only plenking (so you're good) :P
* apeiros
tries to remember the language where `FooBar` and `foo_bar` and `FOO bar` would all be the same thing…
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jhass>
apeiros: I was about to ask :P
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jhass>
let's just claim VBScript does
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apeiros>
nice! somebody else than me knows plenking!
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apeiros>
jhass: I only remember that there is one
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klmlfl>
apeiros: does that syntax make sense?
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apeiros>
initially I found the idea repelling. but I'm not so sure anymore whether it's a bad idea.
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jhass>
well, was it a good idea for filesystems
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apeiros>
klmlfl: yes, idiomatic ruby now IMO
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klmlfl>
the proc is still confusing to me.
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klmlfl>
I thought proc was an object.
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klmlfl>
therefore proc.new
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apeiros>
proc {} returns a Proc
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klmlfl>
or Proc.new
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klmlfl>
but now its just proc
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apeiros>
proc is Kernel#proc method
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apeiros>
Proc.new is equivalent to proc
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jhass>
def proc(&block); Proc.new(&block); end;
<
jhass>
think of it as an alias
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zenspider>
is't both, or all... and yes, it is a confusing mess.
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zenspider>
don't forget lambda :/
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zenspider>
and fuck me
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apeiros>
-> and lambda are equivalent
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zenspider>
I wish we'd collapse to just 1
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apeiros>
but Proc.new/proc are not equivalent to lambda
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zenspider>
I don't care
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apeiros>
zenspider: agreed
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zenspider>
I only want one entry point
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zenspider>
we can pass options to have stupid differences in semantics
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zenspider>
lambda(:return) { ... }
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apeiros>
I also wish for a unified eval
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zenspider>
or something
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jhass>
and Proc.new captures a block, so proc/Proc.new aren't the same either, just helps to think about it that way
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klmlfl>
is it weird if i use proc.ew?
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klmlfl>
helps me understand it better.
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jhass>
proc { } is
_a lot_ more common
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apeiros>
klmlfl: it's fine if you use Proc.new
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jhass>
but it's fine, yeah
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klmlfl>
until i get more familiar with the shortcut stuff, i would like to use proc.new
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apeiros>
interesting. the C implementation of proc and Proc.new differs
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klmlfl>
but im still quite confused about proc vs Proc
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jhass>
Proc.new, case matters. Make it a habit to be pedantic about it when it comes to programming ;)
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klmlfl>
Proc.new - right?
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apeiros>
Proc.new additionally invokes rb_obj_call_init. I assume that only matters for subclasses of Proc, or if you monkey patch
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seydar>
this is seriously driving me nuts
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seydar>
how can i do custom logging for rack and NOT have commonlogger?
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jhass>
don't add the middleware?
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ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: :D
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