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<[spoiler]> Good morning, people and others
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<tbuehlmann> moin
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<maloik> darix: already left for lunch on friday, but re "manually fiddling with chain files": I work on a control panel for hosting, so when we edit our SSL objects I want to mimick what `openssl verify` does
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<maloik> related: having to send the RFC for certificate .pem files to our SSL provider is a bit... ugh
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<ljarvis> hi
<yorickpeterse> lololol TIL mysql is case-insensitive
<yorickpeterse> <users> I CAN'T LOG IN, HALP
<yorickpeterse> apparently they had capitals in their Email but tried to log in using all lowercase letters
<yorickpeterse> Man, MySQL really is the PHP of databases
<ljarvis> wouldn't that make it case-sensitive with that example?
<yorickpeterse> MySQL didn't care, Pg does
<yorickpeterse> so users couldn't log in because the casing of Emails in the DB didn't exactly match their input
<ljarvis> o, context
<yorickpeterse> I think newer versions of Devise automatically lowercase Emails, but we still use some crap old version
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<maloik> still don't see how that's case-insensitive
<maloik> :o
<yorickpeterse> MySQL: Email stored as "FOO@bar.com"
<yorickpeterse> User tries to log in using "foo@bar.com"
<yorickpeterse> that works
<yorickpeterse> Pg: Email stored as "FOO@bar.com"
<maloik> oh right
<yorickpeterse> User tries to log in using "foo@bar.com"
<yorickpeterse> Pg says fuck you
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<apeiros_> yorickpeterse: oracle fun fact: you can change case sensitivity globally. makes for interesting bugs when it's changed. especially with multiple departments using the server.
<apeiros_> lunch time! *runs off*
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<yorickpeterse> wat
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<ljarvis> apeiros_: no running in the halls!
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<yorickpeterse> oh ffs, more Git corruptions
<yorickpeterse> lately my Git repos have been going to shit too often
<yorickpeterse> maybe it's time I just replace the HDD of this laptop
<darix> apeiros_: even more fun: you can change the case sensitivity per connection. that means if you have case sensitive primary keys with unique constraints ... that client will report primary key violations. although the collation for the table and the DB both said case sensitive.
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<darix> as seen with the mysql driver used by etherpad.
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<apeiros_> darix: aaahahaha, awesome
<apeiros_> darix: sounds about right
<apeiros_> god, I hate oracle so much…
<apeiros_> darix: how come you work with oracle? Do they have a presence in suse?
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<[spoiler]> apeiros_: they are like hentai tentacles; they make presence everywhere, even if you don't want it there.
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<[spoiler]> Why did I read my own sentence in a thick Russian accent
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<yorickpeterse> wat
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<DefV_> I read everything onhere in an indian accent
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<yorickpeterse> hihi, REXML is such garbage
<yorickpeterse> "oh noes you have a "-" in your XML comment, better shit myself"
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<yorickpeterse> Ah, a -- to be exact
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<yorickpeterse> heh, the requirement of not allowing "--" in a comment is only to allow compatibility with SGML
<yorickpeterse> well fuck that, Oga supports it anyway
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<ljarvis> yeah, oga! \m/
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<yorickpeterse> I smell sarcasm
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<ljarvis> heh, i was actually being sincere
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<centrx> must have been the sarcasm cologne
<yorickpeterse> or maybe my socks
<yorickpeterse> (they're new)
<centrx> ^smells like sarcasm
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<jefus> there's nothing worse than sarcasm socks after the gym
<centrx> *comedy club
<jefus> yeah, comedy clubs are pretty awful
<jefus> ... :(
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<hal_9000> hmm - this may be more of a unix question - but i *am* coding in ruby ;)
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<hal_9000> how can i read a file that is still growing, and yet know when it stops growing?
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<havenwood> hal_9000: like when the file is closed?
<|jemc|> hal_9000 blocking read with a timeout?
<hal_9000> yes… like proc1 >outfile &; sleep 1; proc2 < outfile # roughly
<apeiros_> you can't really know when a file stops growing
<apeiros_> appending is always possible
<hal_9000> i can’t know when the writer closes it?
<apeiros_> the writer might reopen
<hal_9000> it’s not opened in append mode
<hal_9000> oh ok
<hal_9000> i’m tempted just to write a sentinel value ;)
<apeiros_> so unless you have additional constraints, you can't know when it stops growing :)
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<pipework> apeiros_: Unless you're a time lord.
<apeiros_> even then! the writer might be a dalek!
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<pipework> Ohnoes!
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<hal_9000> i always have plenty of parsley, sage, and rosemary — but —
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<apeiros_> pipework: anyway, I think "I am a timelord" falls under "additional constraint" :D
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<[spoiler]> Lol at the doctor who reference
<[spoiler]> +1 to both of you
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<wnd> a file stops growing the moment its truncated (see: monotonic function), but may grow later again :-)
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<headius> yorickpeterse: hadn't noticed you left #jruby, but if you need any assistance with that JRuby ext let me know
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<yorickpeterse> headius: well, I'm looking for a way to call a Ruby method from JRuby, and pass it a block. MRI has rb_block_call() for this, but I can't really find anything similar in JRuby other than the combination of BlockCallback and the Helpers class stuff
<yorickpeterse> but it's not clear if that's an internal API, or something the public can use
<headius> yeah there's a number of ways to do it, mostly because block semantics have changed many times during JRuby's lifespan
<yorickpeterse> Basically I have a method defined in Ruby called "each_token", I want to call this from JRuby and pass some callback thing called for every value that said method yields
<headius> mostly you just need to implement BlockBody
<headius> ok, and my next question was why you're not writing it in Ruby...but that's the point
<yorickpeterse> Oh, webscale and all that
<headius> right
<headius> let me see if I can find a good example I can recommend
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<yorickpeterse> thanks
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<headius> there's also various ways as an optimization...avoiding all allocation if you want to implement a few arities
<headius> yorickpeterse: if you want to avoid the complexity, turning the block into a proc would mean you just pass it to each_token and call "call"
<headius> the incoming arg could be any object with "call" then
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<yorickpeterse> euh, not sure if that's what I want. I want a Ruby method to basically yield back into JRuby
<yorickpeterse> not the other way around
<headius> right, but in that case you'd be able to just have a normal non-block method for it
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<headius> blocks limit optimization on most impls because of the state capture...a method would not have to
<headius> so with an object that has .call, it could optimize down to no allocation, no captured scope, no heap scope
<headius> since you're talking about webscale and all :-)
<yorickpeterse> well, right now I don't even know how to set up a callback, so I should probably start with that
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<headius> yorickpeterse: yeah I think the CallBlock19 + Helpers approach might be the best one for you to use right now
<headius> it shortcuts most of the methods in BlockBody forcing some argument list allocation, but it will work fine
<yorickpeterse> any examples on this?
<headius> RubyEnumerable...look at callers of callBlock19
<headius> er, callEach19
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<headius> body isn't really important there
<yorickpeterse> hmm
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<yorickpeterse> oh hey that actually works, nice
<yorickpeterse> headius: thanks!
<headius> excellent
<headius> will take rb_block_call under advisement...I guess it would be mostly callEach19's code
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah it's basically the same concept, though more painful to deal with
<headius> we've thought about making a big fat utility class with all MRI's C API endpoints implemented for JRuby, but meh
<headius> I suppose it would help ext authors familiar with MRI
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<yorickpeterse> One of the most annoying things of rb_block_call is that it forces you to use Data_Get_Struct/Data_Wrap_Struct
<yorickpeterse> which in turn forces you to design something in a way that isn't thread-safe
<headius> ugh yeah
<yorickpeterse> (unless you don't want to store any data in C land)
<headius> our version would probably still take BlockCallback, but it could take other callable interfaces like Callable
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<headius> what you store in the impl is up to you, but as an anon inner class block state is usually just inherited
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<headius> yorickpeterse: how does the C ext compare to pure Ruby wrt perf?
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<yorickpeterse> The C ext is about 3x faster
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<headius> yorickpeterse: is that improvement for oga or just for a sample parser?
<yorickpeterse> this is for the parser driver that will replace my existing racc parsers
<yorickpeterse> it's about 1,7x faster than Racc
<yorickpeterse> not the 2x I hoped for, but good enough
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<headius> will be good to do some profiling again in jruby once you have it ready
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<headius> the racc perf issues mostly just boiled down to all the allocation it does...hard to reduce that in pure-Ruby
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<oak1> if I want to search my postgresql database for "harry potter" and want it to return entries "Harry potter and the prsoner of Azkaban" and "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone", what method would I use on the Movies model?
<oak1> right now I'm using find_by :title but it requires an exact match
<oak1> test
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<pipework> oak1: Try #rubyonrails
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<ericwood> #rubyofftharailz
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