#ruby on 2019-10-29 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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01:28 <al2o3-cr> i suppose go with the times. sometime change is needed.

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04:43 <bobdobbs> Just wondering... do any of you use Toolset's CREDS?

04:43 <bobdobbs> I'm just wondering if it has particular advantages over other form builders

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08:58 <bradfordli123> are ruby Hash's ordered?

08:58 <bradfordli123> I'm learning ruby and I see this bit of code : http://dpaste.com/2918E5Q im not sure what d[0] is

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09:01 <havenwood> bradfordli123: Yes, they're ordered by key insertion. It's a doubly, circularly linked list.

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09:01 <Rudolph> if your block only takes 1 argument, arg[0] is the key, arg[1] is the value

09:01 <Rudolph> (where arg is an Array)

09:01 <bradfordli123> Rudolph: got it thanks!

09:02 <Rudolph> sure thing

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09:03 <u2crainn> Hi, I'm wondering getting 'Integer' after running 'puts 10.class'. I read some books although some of which may be outdated. They all claim that running 'puts 10.class' should get 'Fixnum'. I am using ruby 2.6 built from source on linux, and ruby 2.5.5 on windows.

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09:03 <Rudolph> what book are you reading

09:03 <havenwood> u2crainn: Fixnum and Bignum are now unified under Integer.

09:04 <havenwood> &>> 10.instance_of? Fixnum

09:04 <rubydoc> # => true stderr: -e:4: warning: constant ::Fixnum is deprecated (https://carc.in/#/r/7wp3)

09:04 <u2crainn> Oh I see. Nice.

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09:08 <bradfordli123> what is the point of this line : `s = Marshal.load(Marshal.dump(self))`

09:08 <bradfordli123> it seems like thy cancel out

09:08 <bradfordli123> i jsut learned about pickling (in python) seems exactly the same as Marshal for Ruby

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09:08 <bradfordli123> dump out bytes then load the bytes

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09:13 <u2crainn> I have another question about 'load' and memory management.

09:13 <u2crainn> Link: https://dpaste.de/Mucf

09:14 <u2crainn> If the repeated part repeat many times, would it lead to memory over consumption?

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09:37 <havenwood> bradfordli123: Usually when you see that the purpose is deep copying.

09:38 <havenwood> bradfordli123: It's a way to get #deep_dup when you're not in Rails.

09:39 <bradfordli123> havenwood: I see this line right after `s.clears`. Looks like calling a method inside a class. I guess it means calling a static method?

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09:59 <havenwood> u2, seems they left, but yes it's cause GC strain due to String Object creation unless you use frozen_string_literal.

09:59 <havenwood> it'd*

10:00 <havenwood> Also the interpolated strings.

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