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<al2o3-cr> Happy New Year! to each and everyone us, good luck in any future careers. Look after each other. ;)
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<diogenes> hey all
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<havenwood> Happy New Year!
<havenwood> diogenes: Hi
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<diogenes> havenwood: howdie - happy new year
<diogenes> just getting into some ruby stuff, figured it'd be good to join
<havenwood> diogenes: Welcome!
<havenwood> diogenes: 2020 should be an exciting year for Ruby...!
<diogenes> I'm coming from a python, DS/Data engineer background and figured some web dev stuff would be good for my portfolio
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<havenwood> diogenes: Some modern web alternatives worth a look in Ruby are Roda and Hanami.
<havenwood> diogenes: http://roda.jeremyevans.net/
<havenwood> diogenes: https://hanamirb.org/
<al2o3-cr> diogenes: i've heard c good for webdev
<diogenes> al2o3-cr: nice troll
<havenwood> al2o3-cr: and Ruby is good for experienced C programmers, so checks out!
<diogenes> havenwood: will peep those links
<lupine> remember when hanami was called lotus?
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<havenwood> diogenes: Roda is along the lines of Sinatra, except even more minimalist but composable to a more complex framework with plugins.
<diogenes> interesting - I know next to nothing about web dev, so will make a note of this
<havenwood> diogenes: Hanami is along the lines of Rails, but a fresh codebase given lessons learned.
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<al2o3-cr> havenwood: Hanami is the up and coming framework.
<havenwood> diogenes: Rails, Sinatra, Roda, Hanami, and others are all Rack frameworks. Most HTTP in Ruby is through Rack, unless you're using sockets directly, CGI, or something else off the track.
<havenwood> diogenes: I think it's worth making your own pure Rack app, to grok the spec and how it works.
<havenwood> diogenes: Then I'd suggest going to Roda or Sinatra once you see how routing in Rack is a bit of a pain.
<diogenes> havenwood: bless - I'm doing the odin project for ruby and javascript, but is there a better beginner source that you can recommend? comfortable programming so mid user with no exp in ruby
<al2o3-cr> diogenes: there's some nice reads in the /topic books and links
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<havenwood> We still need to merge baweaver's book list into the community page! https://gist.github.com/baweaver/57a7c8296ca2c03effbd8fac1e7f6b40
<al2o3-cr> havenwood: for sure.
<havenwood> diogenes: I like the Exercism.io challenges.
<havenwood> diogenes: I'd suggest starting with TryRuby R4: https://ruby.github.io/TryRuby/
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<al2o3-cr> +1 ^
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<al2o3-cr> diogenes: hope you get to enjoy Ruby!
<diogenes> thanks all for the support - I'll review the links provided. Hope everyone has a great night
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<al2o3-cr> diogenes: You too!
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<crella133> Hi, does ruby support it: read a file from local file system to memory, and visit the file image on memory directly.
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<guzzlefry> Is there any best practice on whether or not to use parenthesis for methods that lack parameters?
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<phaul> guzzlefry: it's discouraged. there is a rubocop for it : Style/MethodCallWithoutArgsParentheses
<phaul> in general rubocop check is good to keep best practises
<guzzlefry> phaul: Parenthesis are discouraged or the lack of them?
<phaul> having parenthesis is discouraged in case of no arguments
<guzzlefry> ah I see, thanks
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<Jack-20> hi
<Jack-20> What is the difference between RubyGem and Bundler ?
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<jerry_jerry> rubygems are dishes, bundler is the menu
<jerry_jerry> Jack-20
<Jack-20> jerry_jerry I. don't understand.
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<jerry_jerry> Jack-20: Take a look in this book Karthikeyan, A K. (2009) I Love Ruby. updated to 2.5. Available at: https://i-love-ruby.gitlab.io/print.pdf. (Accessed November 25, 2019).
<Jack-20> there is a software named "RubyGems" (" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RubyGems" )
<Jack-20> and a software name bundler
<Jack-20> But they look same
<jerry_jerry> gems are dishes, bundler is the menu
<jerry_jerry> imagine russian dolls
<Jack-20> but gems, are libraries
<jerry_jerry> exactly
<jerry_jerry> and bundler keeps a list of libraries
<Jack-20> ruygems is not a library
<Jack-20> rubygems *
<jerry_jerry> have you read the wikipedia page you linked?
<Jack-20> yes. and you ?
<jerry_jerry> can you translate the first sentence for me?
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<Jack-20> oh sorry
<Jack-20> it's not the english wikipedia
<Jack-20> I just don't see it
<Jack-20> It's written : Rubygems (or Gems for short) is the official package system for the programming language Ruby.
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<jerry_jerry> jack-20: official
<jerry_jerry> and not official
<lupine> just imagine a grown man weeping into his coffee
<lupine> that is rubygems
<lupine> the man standing behind the weeping man with a lash is bundler
<ytti> anyone ever explaining git: it's simple, just think of it as <<some entirely useless analog>>
<lupine> git is simple... too simple
<jerry_jerry> in Rubyland, for everything Ruby supports out of the box, there is at least one other alternative that does more
<ytti> how git UX actually is: punch question to google search, click on SE link, copy paste the answer and hope for the best
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<jerry_jerry> Jack-20: is it clarified?
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<adam12> I swore Bundler would auto-switch versions. Has anybody seen it work?
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<havenwood> adam12: Switch versions?
<adam12> havenwood: It would choose Bundler 1 or Bundler 2 depending on lock.
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<havenwood> adam12: Bundler 1 does have to be installed: gem install bundler -v "~>1.0"
<adam12> havenwood: I have 2 versions of it installed but it was still complaining.
<havenwood> adam12: Hrmm.
<adam12> havenwood: Yeah :\ It's a real mystery.
<havenwood> adam12: And Bundler 2 is the default executable?
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<havenwood> Like: bundle -v #>> Bundler version 2.1.2
<havenwood> adam12: Ah, pinned to an older 1.0.
<havenwood> adam12: Does it autoswitch after a: gem install bundler -v "1.13"
<adam12> havenwood: Well that's another mystery, of course. Two different calls to bundle -v return both different versions.
<havenwood> adam12: hah
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<adam12> havenwood: Of course I manually call the version independently in there somewhere (bundle _2.1.2_)
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<havenwood> adam12: Oh, yeah - it's ~> so 1.17.3 should work. Hrmmm.
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<havenwood> wierd
<adam12> Yeah it's odd
<adam12> I wonder how I was able to get `bundle -v` to return the 1.17.3 version tho.
<adam12> Sounds like a Rubygems bug.
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<adam12> Actually
<adam12> Maybe that's the autoswitcher actually working
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<adam12> I think there's an edgecase that's not handled by the autoswitcher.
<adam12> Specifying bundler as a dependency, but without the version in the lock file, it fails.
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<adam12> Running bundler with _1.17.3 builds the lock file with the version in it with 'BUNDLED WITH'
<adam12> Then running bundler again auto-switches.
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<adam12> havenwood: happy new year btw.
<havenwood> adam12: happy new year!
<adam12> That must of been it. Gemfile.lock was ancient, no bundler version in it.
<havenwood> Aha
<havenwood> That kinda makes sense
<adam12> This was an old project where I probably used the bundler boilerplate for setting it up too.
<adam12> Which meant a dependency on bundler in the gemspec.
<adam12> Oh well. Mystery solved.
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<Jack-20> I still don't understand
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