#ruby on 2020-11-12 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:12 <nakilon> is it possible to get Process#argv0 of another process?

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00:44 <nakilon> made it like this: File.read("/proc/#{pid}/cmdline").split("\u0000")[1]

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00:59 <havenwood> nakilon: I haven't used the gem, but looks like the sys-proctable gem would give an interface like: Sys::ProcTable.ps(pid: pid).name

01:00 <havenwood> https://github.com/djberg96/sys-proctable

01:01 <havenwood> nakilon: (Just doing the same thing under the hood and gain portability at the cost of a dep.)

01:02 <havenwood> nakilon: It does seem like a gap to not have a nice wrapper for other processes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:02 <nakilon> name isn't argv[0] though

01:02 <nakilon> it gave me "ruby"

01:03 <nakilon> ah, I see .cmdline

01:03 <havenwood> nakilon: Ah, yup, you're right.

01:03 <havenwood> I've not used this one before.

01:03 <nakilon> havenwood already using a dependency get_process_mem in current script

01:04 <nakilon> okay, thanks for successful googling, I'll keep it in mind

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04:16 <nakilon> there is a process that I call via Kernel#system (ffmpeg) that appeared to hang once in ~8000 calls and I don't see the possibility to tell ffmpeg to timeout and stop retrying

04:17 <nakilon> so unfortunately I'll have to launch it in background and check for the process state in a loop, etc.

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04:18 <nakilon> the question is: is it correct to launch it with IO.popen and check the return of .closed? ?

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04:41 <havenwood> nakilon: I wonder about using an Open3.popen3 wait thread.

04:43 <havenwood> nakilon: Maybe with a ThreadGroup?

04:43 <nakilon> does not look like IO.popen("sleep 0.1") closes after 100msec

04:44 <nakilon> havenwood, this is making it too complex

04:47 <nakilon> as IO docs say: "::popen, the Open3 library, or Process#spawn may also be used to communicate with subprocesses through an IO." -- I assume it as a order in which I must consider to try using these things

04:47 <nakilon> so I start with popen and I'm surprised it does not close

04:48 <havenwood> In any case, fun to watch threads disappear from the thread group.

04:48 * havenwood kicks rocks

04:48 <havenwood> thread_group = 10.times.reduce(ThreadGroup.new) { |group, thread| group.add Open3.popen3('sleep', [*'1'..'10'].sample).last }; thread_group.list

04:51 <havenwood> to show remaining pids: thread_group.list.map(&:pid)

04:54 <havenwood> nakilon: Is your objection to #open3 the thread or the code? I don't quite follow which part is "too complex"

04:55 <havenwood> Complex like threads are overboard here or like Open3 is going to be complex?

04:56 <havenwood> Simple like backticks or system is nice until pesky stderr and lingering processes make it not so simple.

04:56 <nakilon> looks like the block form of IO#popen closes it but it also does not work in background anymore

04:57 <havenwood> nakilon: Oh, yeah. You have to manually call #close on a bunch of Ruby IO stuff or block forms auto close.

04:57 <havenwood> That's a common Ruby I/O pattern.

04:57 <nakilon> then should I wrap it in Thread.new?

04:58 <havenwood> nakilon: wrap what in Thread.new?

04:58 <nakilon> so Thread will be the thing that kind of closes it

04:58 <nakilon> havenwood IO.popen

05:00 <nakilon> oh no, I'll not be able to check the io.closed? from outside if the io=IO.popen{... does not assign until the block has ended

05:01 <havenwood> it seems like having wait threads to track which pids are still unreturned might be handy. open3 is tempting.

05:01 <havenwood> https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.7.0/Open3.html#method-c-popen3

05:02 <nakilon> why popen3 if there are popen2, etc.? you clearly are aiming the most complex methods by default )

05:03 <nakilon> we call it "из пушки по воробьям" in Russian, meaning "shooting birds with a cannon" ..D

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05:05 <havenwood> nakilon: sure, or popen2e? I didn't bother to think about what you're doing with the shelled out process.

05:06 <havenwood> nakilon: The janky part is a process just hanging, not having a nanny thread tattle on it.

05:06 <nakilon> hm, the IO object passed to the block is immediately closed for "sleep 1" command for some reason

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05:08 <nakilon> but if I call .closed? because I assign it to the var outside of Thread it's not closed.... I'm confused

05:08 <nakilon> &>> io = nil; Thread.new{ IO.popen("sleep 1"){ |_| io = _ } }; nil until io; p io.closed?; sleep 2; p io.closed?

05:08 <nakilon> &>> io = nil; Thread.new{ IO.popen("sleep 1"){ |_| io = _; p _.closed? } }; nil until io; p io.closed?; sleep 2; p io.closed?

05:09 <nakilon> &>> "bot are okay?"

05:14 <havenwood> nakilon: Yeah, the middle one is a race.

05:16 * havenwood pokes ruby[bot]

05:17 <havenwood> nakilon: Open3? :P

05:17 <nakilon> (ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻

05:18 <havenwood> https://gist.github.com/havenwood/7387731

05:18 <havenwood> Why do I even use Curses? Oh, right.

05:18 <havenwood> Curses!

05:20 <havenwood> nakilon: My thinking with a ThreadGroup and Open3 wait thread was that you could just Timeout.timeout or whatever and kill the pids left in the ThreadGroup.

05:22 <havenwood> Many ways to do it. Choices.

05:23 <nakilon> maybe Timeout.timeout will do, didn't use it yet

05:24 <nakilon> my current approach was this https://dpaste.org/2Kyo

05:24 <nakilon> (don't mind the method name, the atomicy is really outside of it, based on the yield)

05:25 <havenwood> Ah, gotcha. Timeout on a per-cmd basis.

05:26 <nakilon> this ffmpeg is the last thing the script has to do and then it should exit to any exception of throw will do

05:26 <nakilon> and if the exception does not happen, it should do the ensuring block

05:26 <nakilon> that is moving the output of ffmpeg in the correct place, because if I kill ffmpeg prematurely the result might exist but be corrupted

05:27 <nakilon> *so any exception or throw

05:27 <nakilon> sorry for typos

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05:33 <nakilon> actually Timeout.timeout is excellent solution, no need of wrapper anymore

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06:10 <TzilTzal> Hi

06:14 <TzilTzal> I have a Gemfile.lock that has a x86 mentioned in it and I can't seem to use this on an ARM machine... any way to fix this?

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06:18 <nakilon> TzilTzal, what gem is that? you might need to specify platform in Gemfile and do 'bundle' on ARM machine to resolve it properly

06:19 <nakilon> or not specify, just do the 'bundle' on ARM machine in case the Gemfile.lock was generated on different one -- I suppose bundler should understand what platform you are on

06:22 <TzilTzal> nakilon: chilkat

06:23 <havenwood> TzilTzal: bundle update chilkat --conservative

06:24 <nakilon> I'm not ARM expert but I don't see it to be available https://rubygems.org/gems/chilkat/versions

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06:27 <nakilon> also can't find them Github -- would search "Issues" for "ARM"

06:29 <havenwood> Hem, yeah—looks like it is closed source.

06:29 <havenwood> Though, it's a gem, so...

06:30 <havenwood> It can only be so closed.

06:33 <havenwood> "Chilkat Software License" in license.txt

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06:47 <nakilon> I hope ffmpeg won't get zombified when ruby quit on Timeout exception?!

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07:57 <nakilon> guy from Alpine Linux says about my native extension gem compilation issue that it's wrong in the first place that such definitions as BDIGITS, BIGNU"M_LEN, etc. are in the .c file, not .h

07:59 <nakilon> and so since that makes the need to download ruby's .tar.gz to compile my gem, there in .tar.gz are probably binaries built with glibc

07:59 <nakilon> since Ruby 2.4

07:59 <nakilon> so still all guesses are that it's Ruby's fault but I still have no response _--

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13:42 <adam12> nakilon: That _is_ surprising..

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20:22 <adam12> meth(...) on Ruby 3 is quite nice. Going to be hard to wait for that one to become usable everywhere.

20:23 <jhass> https://github.com/ruby-next/ruby-next

20:24 <jhass> (not sure it has ... yet but I guess it will be added)

20:24 <adam12> I've been spending way too much time fixing a kwarg issue, while maintaining backwards compatibility. But `...` fixed it immediately. Sad.

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