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<ocdtrekkie> And the question is... will. it. build?
<ocdtrekkie> it builds!
<TimMc> \o/
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<ocdtrekkie> https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/pull/231 should put vagrant-spk's meteor stack back in order.
<ocdtrekkie> (I think we are now mostly in the era of saying people are often better off just using meteor-spk directly, but for existing vagrant-spk packages in particular, like Rocket.Chat, this is a good place to be.)
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<mosn> Hey everyone, sandstorm is awesome hands down, just a quick question from a quy who's not a developer. If I have an html site, how sandstorm can help me use it. is there anyway to just upload html sites the way firebase hosting works ?
<XgF> mosn: upload them to davros
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<XgF> (create a davros grain and turn on sharing)
<mosn> XgF thanks for the tip I am giving it a try now!
<mosn> I really love the idea of Sandstorm & I think it really bridges a gap in the industry but having worked on it for past 24 hours, I see most of the guides were written for a specific audience group
<mosn> but I think Sandstorm's has a far broader reach if it focuses on users with less software engineering knowledge, like myself :D Just a pointer
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<ocdtr_web> mosn: XgF's advice of using Davros is indeed the best way to do this I know of.
<mosn> XgF it worked! Thanks a lot.
<ocdtr_web> I host a small HTML only website that way.
<ocdtr_web> One of the things I want to do, to take it a step further, is make an app that makes it easy to host your own PHP sites.
<mosn> Yes!! 2 min and done, You will not believe that I was trying to convert html5 page and make a hero theme from that so that I can use it with the hero :D
<ocdtr_web> hero?
<mosn> haha Hugo...
<mosn> I failed of course.
<ocdtr_web> Ah, yeah, I tried to work with Hugo a bit and had some issues.
<mosn> ocdtr_web I think a very good place to look at could be vagrant-spk & monero-spk. imo that could be the gateway to make Sandstorm easier to use.
<ocdtr_web> vagrant-spk builds Sandstorm apps based on PHP, I was more or less going to work with something similar to it to make an easy uploader for PHP sites.
<ocdtr_web> Though they wouldn't likely be static publishable like a Davros grain, they'd be inside the Sandstorm frame.
<ocdtr_web> By monero-spk, I am guessing you mean meteor-spk?
<mosn> Yup
<ocdtr_web> Meteor can be fairly intensive to work with, I don't see a lot of non-technical folks ending up building their own Meteor sites.
<mosn> but I think I really like the idea of staying in the Sandstorm frame. I think that's an advantage
<ocdtr_web> But yeah, basically my idea for a PHP hosting app (similar to standard web hosting), is to take the vagrant-spk lemp stack (which is PHP/MySQL) and have both a tool for uploading your files, and uploading your database to it.
<mosn> I was trying to package ReactionCommerce for sandstorm, It didn't work but I see it as a great starting point to improve these tools
<ocdtr_web> I've been working on them lately. :)
<mosn> cool.. looking forward to see this thing grow
<ocdtr_web> Were you trying to use meteor-spk or vagrant-spk to package ReactionCommerce?
<mosn> I tried both, with meteor I didn't get far as the official guide was basically 3 lines. but the vagrant-spk I was able to get to a point to build the app
<ocdtr_web> Because this is something I did last night https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/pull/231
<ocdtr_web> And should mostly fix that issue.
<mosn> Yes I was checking out master, I will give it a try tonight, would be great to see it actually work
<ocdtr_web> Note that these changes to build.sh and setup.sh are the files that get pasted in /.sandstorm of your project directory when you do a setupvm meteor.
<ocdtr_web> You can just paste the build.sh and setup.sh from my PR over them if you didn't modify them yourself in any other way.
<ocdtr_web> Note that both meteor-spk and vagrant-spk are just sort of helper tools to help you generate working Sandstorm apps. meteor-spk doesn't bother trying to fix fibers for you, because it assumes the existing meteor setup is working prior to you using it.
<ocdtr_web> There are lots of sites on the Internet which talk about reinstalling fibers when fibers breaks things.
<mosn> No I didn't modify it. I only had to modify the Vagrantfile in there since I was running inside a vm and faced the issue of having 2 cpu which was fixed by changing the cpu to 1
<ocdtr_web> Since vagrant-spk is building a VM, it has to do things like correctly install fibers, which is why it does so in the PR.
<ocdtr_web> Ooooh, running a VM inside a VM. Scary stuff. :P
<mosn> it was on my machine since I'm on mac and it's not a dev station. I had to run run Reactioncommerce and things got nested from there
<ocdtr_web> Note that vagrant-spk itself should run on your Mac directly, so I am told.
<ocdtr_web> ;)
<mosn> But if I were the author of meteor-spk page, I would certainly make an edit and removed the line which insisted on "5 minutes"
<mosn> It was fun any way :D but in a roller coaster
<ocdtr_web> But yeah, if you follow any number of Internet opinions on how to fix node fibers, meteor-spk should work, or you can overwrite the build.sh and setup.sh with the modified versions of my PR. If you do the latter, I would go ahead and vagrant-spk vm destroy and then vagrant-spk vm up to make sure it trashes everything from your old/broken fibers.
<ocdtr_web> mosn: FWIW, Kenton has done a five minute lightning talk where he packaged a Meteor app.
<ocdtr_web> Hence the claim.
<mosn> Cool, will check it out.
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<ocdtr_web> Anyways, I hope my PR helps, if you spend some time trying it again and still have issues, please file issue reports or the like against meteor-spk or vagrant-spk respectively, I'd be more than happy to help you through them.
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<ocdtr_web> I really want to get more new apps actively being packaged and submitted. :)
<TimMc> I was looking at getting Radicale updated. I wonder how mcuh work that would be...
<TimMc> There aren't any instructions in the repo for it.
<ocdtr_web> Presumably update the radicale version tag in requirements.txt and the InfCloud version tag in setup.sh
<ocdtr_web> And troubleshoot.
<ocdtr_web> (Also, you'd want to update the Vagrantfile and global-setup.sh with vagrant-spk's changes, and see what changes have been done to vagrant-spk's uwsgi stack.)
<TimMc> Maybe I'll take a swing at it this weekend.
<ocdtr_web> If you do, note that one addition to the uwsgi stack is unmerged: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/pull/229
<Ed[m]> i gave up on ss/radicale because it was unstable, if there's a bug bounty for it i might contribute now i've got a stable 9-5
<Ed[m]> owncloud uses too many resources on my vps ^^
<Ed[m]> strike might, will
<Ed[m]> is http://sandsheep.com/bb still the correct link? i can't see anything on wekan
<Ed[m]> ack "Wekan is loading, please wait. Refreshing the page will cause data loss. If Wekan does not load, please check that Wekan server has not stopped." maybe it broke ^^
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<ocdtr_web> Ed[m]: The current version of Wekan is currently broken for anonymous users. :/
<ocdtr_web> If you are logged into oasis.sandstorm.io, the bug bounty board will work.
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