17:35 <hushnowquietnow> Hi everyone, I have a plugin design problem that I hope you find interesting

17:36 <hushnowquietnow> I'm trying to figure out a way to implement a blacklist for particular users, to prevent them from having access to certain commands on my cinch bot

17:38 <hushnowquietnow> I have functionality split across more than a dozen plugins, though, and it doesn't make sense to maintain separate blacklists per plugin

17:40 <hushnowquietnow> Is there a way I can maintain a single list that's accessible by all of my plugins?

17:46 <dominikh> you could use `shared` for that (as in, the config option and the helper of same name)

17:49 <hushnowquietnow> I figured there was something already in place that could do that

17:49 <dominikh> I've always quite fancied my ACL code from https://github.com/dominikh/Mathetes/blob/cinch_rewrite/bot.rb (lines 3-15, 44-110, 131-155, and a simple "enable_acl" in any plugin that wants ACLs enabled. I don't remember if it supports global ACLs that aren't specific to plugins, but that'd be trivial to add, anyway

17:53 <hushnowquietnow> I think some of this is going over my head

17:54 <dominikh> there's nothing too advanced in there, really. using pre filters to drop messages, and a basic class to implement ACLs (also using `shared`)

17:56 <dominikh> anyway, "use `shared`" is still my answer to your initial question of how to have a single list available to all plugins

17:57 <hushnowquietnow> Yeah, that'll definitely be sufficient for my needs

18:05 <hushnowquietnow> Does this `reset` method you have defined here also reload plugin files, to pick up edits?

18:10 <dominikh> define "here"

18:11 <dominikh> the one in that file on line 113? no, it doesn't.

18:12 <dominikh> https://gist.github.com/dominikh/2179973 does, though.

18:13 <hushnowquietnow> Yes, that's the one I meant, sorry

18:16 <hushnowquietnow> I'm actually using that very gist in my bot now. It's made fixing bugs a much less noisy process for the people in my channel

18:17 <hushnowquietnow> Thank you for making it.

18:18 <dominikh> heh, you're welcome. although nowadays, for bots written in languages that can't reload code as easily, I just run the bot behind a bouncer

18:20 <hushnowquietnow> I probably should've done that myself, but I haven't done much reading into them (and I wasn't even aware they were a thing when I first started with Cinch)