#crystal-lang on 2015-09-26 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-09-19 12:45 jhass changed the topic of #crystal-lang to: The Crystal programming language | http://crystal-lang.org | Crystal 0.8.0 | Fund Crystals development: http://is.gd/X7PRtI | Paste > 3 lines of text to https://gist.github.com | GH: https://github.com/manastech/crystal | Docs: http://crystal-lang.org/docs/ | API: http://crystal-lang.org/api/ | Logs: http://irclog.whitequark.org/crystal-lang

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01:05 <crystal-gh> [crystal] jreinert opened pull request #1603: add byte_format decoding support and specs (master...byte-format-decoding) http://git.io/vnxak

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08:51 <sdogruyol> morning

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10:22 <Papierkorb> Any idea how to incorporate the Autobahn Test Suite for websockets?

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10:52 <Papierkorb> jhass: Opened a issue regarding a case-insensitive comparison function https://github.com/manastech/crystal/issues/1604

10:55 <Papierkorb> >> nil.to_s

10:55 <DeBot> Papierkorb: # => "" - http://carc.in/#/r/h2q

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11:00 <Papierkorb> >> require 'json'; JSON.parse '{ "foo": 123 }'

11:00 <DeBot> Papierkorb: Syntax error in eval:20: unterminated char literal, use double quotes for strings - http://carc.in/#/r/h2r

11:01 <Papierkorb> >> require 'json'; JSON.parse "{ \"foo\": 123 }"

11:01 <DeBot> Papierkorb: Syntax error in eval:20: unterminated char literal, use double quotes for strings - http://carc.in/#/r/h2s

11:04 <gamemanj> >> require "json"; JSON.parse "{ \"foo\": 123 }"

11:04 <DeBot> gamemanj: in line 20: can't require dynamically - http://carc.in/#/r/h2v

11:07 <BlaXpirit> gamemanj, bot is broken because of changes in the language

11:07 <BlaXpirit> jhass, please investigate. you may just need to add requires to that list

11:15 <Papierkorb> Would anyone be unhappy if I'd reimplement websockets from scratch?

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11:31 <sdogruyol> :D

11:32 <sdogruyol> Papierkorb: no

11:32 <sdogruyol> Papierkorb: we'd be happy :P

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11:34 <sstarr> hello, I'm taking a look at crystal for the first time today and running through some tutorials but I've run into an issue

11:35 <sstarr> I'm using this guide to install crsfml - http://blaxpirit.github.io/crsfml/tutorials/crsfml-install.html

11:35 <Papierkorb> BlaXpirit: ^

11:35 <sstarr> I've got csfml installed and the C test program works

11:36 <sstarr> but when I create a Projectfile and run `crystal deps`, I get this error: could not locate shard.yml

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12:26 <BlaXpirit> sstarr, yeaah... that needs updating

12:26 <BlaXpirit> because crystal 0.8.0 dropped this mechanism in favor of a new one

12:27 <Papierkorb> is there some primitive to convert Big-Endian to the host endianess?

12:29 <BlaXpirit> Papierkorb, something something https://github.com/manastech/crystal/search?q=htons

12:30 <BlaXpirit> which probably means that there is no such primitive :o

12:30 <BlaXpirit> because only the one for uint16 is defined

12:30 <sstarr> oic, so I need a shard.yml instead of a Projectfile?

12:30 <Papierkorb> Endian.to_big_endian(val : T) : T would be nice ..

12:31 <Papierkorb> and vice-versa

12:31 <BlaXpirit> sstarr, yeah.

12:31 <BlaXpirit> i haven't taken the time to learn this new system yet

12:32 <sstarr> ok, I'll have a go at getting it to work and open a pull request if I'm successful :)

12:32 <BlaXpirit> would be great, sstarr

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12:34 <BlaXpirit> lol installing shards is such a PITA

12:35 <BlaXpirit> i could understand it if crystal repository provided it

12:37 <BlaXpirit> sstarr, i'm gonna update it myself

12:37 <BlaXpirit> for now, here is shard.yml https://bpaste.net/show/db82782f3f7c

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13:00 <oleh> hi all

13:00 <oleh> how to specify the llvm options when I compile program?

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13:16 <sstarr> BlaXpirit: great, thanks :)

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13:27 <Doug_> Is there a list of "magic" constants like __LINE__, __FILE__, etc?

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13:34 <BlaXpirit> Doug_, this is the closest thing i found https://github.com/manastech/crystal/blob/master/spec/compiler/codegen/magic_constants_spec.cr

13:34 <BlaXpirit> better https://github.com/manastech/crystal/blob/fad1793e3171ab611d8723746664fb8c9acf65cd/src/compiler/crystal/codegen/call.cr#L98

13:38 <Doug_> cool thanks. __LINE__ __FILE__ __DIR__ i don't see anything like __METHOD__ or __MODULE__ is/could that be a thing?

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14:17 <dzv> waj: when you changed from GC.malloc to mmap did you see a performance increase? you said malloc zeroes mem, but so does mmap.

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14:42 <travis-ci> rhysd/crystal#5e9d813 (master - Fixed samples/2048.cr): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/rhysd/crystal/builds/82289674

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14:58 <jokke> hey

14:58 <jokke> i'm having trouble with implementing SliceIO

14:58 <jokke> https://p.jreinert.com/m-tQZKU1/

14:59 <jokke> the specs at the top

14:59 <jokke> for some weird reason the latter works wheras the first doesnt

14:59 <jokke> weird because isn't the latter exactly what would happen if i use <<?

15:00 <jokke> io << "foo" => "foo".to_s(io) => io.write(Slice.new("foo".cstr, "foo".bytesize))

15:01 <BlaXpirit> what's the point

15:01 <jokke> point in what?

15:01 <BlaXpirit> in making a class that has a subset of functionality of what is in standard library

15:01 <jokke> oh SliceIO is already implemented?

15:02 <jokke> the issue is still open

15:02 <jokke> https://github.com/manastech/crystal/issues/825

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15:03 <BlaXpirit> jokke, use StringIO if possible

15:03 <jokke> what?

15:03 <jokke> why would i do that?

15:04 <jokke> SliceIO has it's clear benefits over StringIO

15:04 <jokke> there are tons of use cases for SliceIO

15:05 <jokke> so you can't tell me what the problem might be here?

15:06 <jokke> BlaXpirit: as for your question about endianness look into io/byte_format.cr

15:06 <jokke> also #1603

15:06 <DeBot> https://github.com/manastech/crystal/pull/1603 (add byte_format decoding support and specs)

15:07 <crystal-gh> [crystal] rhysd opened pull request #1606: Add --no-color option to `crystal spec` subcommand (master...spec-no-color) http://git.io/vnhYL

15:07 <nietzschette> when I make from git clone, bash gives me: --cxxflags: command not found. I'm assuming llvm is not correctly set up?

15:09 <jokke> Papierkorb: you too

15:09 <Papierkorb> jokke: mh?

15:09 <dzv> how do you create a packed struct?

15:09 <jokke> #1603

15:09 <DeBot> https://github.com/manastech/crystal/pull/1603 (add byte_format decoding support and specs)

15:10 <jokke> dzv: what do you mean?

15:10 <jokke> dzv: i'd create a to_io method

15:10 <jokke> for that struct

15:12 <jokke> and a bytesize method maybe

15:13 <jokke> then use SliceIO.new(struct.bytesize).read_object(struct)

15:13 <jokke> but that won't work yet

15:13 <jokke> :>

15:13 <jokke> read_bytes would work though

15:13 <dzv> i'm using mmap so can't use io methods

15:14 <jokke> mmap?

15:14 <dzv> yes

15:16 <jokke> hmm yeah?

15:16 <jokke> i don't see the problem

15:16 <Papierkorb> Tbh, for me the discussion in the PR is a bit confusing. To me, read_bytes and read_object are fundamentally different things. The first reads bytes (Most likely into a Slice(UInt8)), where the latter does some kind of mapping from the object into (or from) the IO. Why not have both? Both make sense. And expecting the Object to respond to to_io and from_io sounds reasonable to me

15:16 <jokke> Papierkorb: yeah, that's why i'm pleading for read_object

15:17 <jokke> and write_object

15:17 <Papierkorb> So, with that, Slice(T) could also provide to_/from_io. In this case, both read_bytes and read_object (and the write_*) make sense: I could imagine the Slice to prepend its length into the IO, so I can easily read it read_object it later again

15:17 <Papierkorb> Both methods have their valid purpose to me

15:18 <jokke> mmh

15:18 <Papierkorb> So io.write_object some_slive # => [Int32][UInt8 data ...]

15:18 <Papierkorb> and io.write_bytes some_slice # => [UInt8 data ...]

15:18 <crystal-gh> [crystal] benoist opened pull request #1607: require http server to be initialized with host (master...master) http://git.io/vnh3I

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15:19 <Papierkorb> jokke: Should I post that into the PR?

15:19 <dzv> the reason slices are used instead of array's is? the overhead different should be tiny

15:19 <jokke> dzv: why can't you write your struct to a slice io and then take the pointer of the slice and pass it to mmap

15:19 <jokke> Papierkorb: sure!

15:19 <Papierkorb> dzv: Slice is dynamic in length, where as a StaticArray is static in length

15:20 <dzv> because i'm going the other way. the data is coming from mmap and i need to put it in a struct

15:20 <Papierkorb> dzv: tbh on that note, a StaticSlice would be interesting :>

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15:20 <Papierkorb> dzv: though iirc StaticArray already does basically that in its #to_slice

15:20 <jokke> dzv: ok, so you have a pointer. make a slice out of it, pass it to slice io and read your struct

15:21 <dzv> when did slice length become dynamic?

15:21 <jokke> dzv: ah you don't know the lenght

15:21 <jokke> h

15:21 <BlaXpirit> Papierkorb, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat you're talking nonsense

15:21 <Papierkorb> Err i mean slice is runtime allocated?

15:21 <BlaXpirit> oh ok

15:22 <jokke> dzv: there's pointer_io too

15:24 <jokke> so any clues to my problem regarding the two specs?

15:24 <dzv> ok, so i can use PointerIO or slice.copy_from directly. that still doesn't solve my packing problem

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15:26 <jokke> dzv: is the struct a c struct, you're trying to read?

15:26 <dzv> yes

15:26 <jokke> ok

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15:26 <jokke> does it have any pointers?

15:26 <dzv> no

15:27 <jokke> ok that's fairly easy then. just read the values in the order of the definitions of the struct members

15:27 <jokke> iirc structs are stored that way

15:27 <dzv> i'm aiming for zero copy. that's why i mmaped the file

15:28 <jokke> hmm

15:29 <jokke> what about foo = (pointer as Pointer(Int32)).value

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15:29 <jokke> does that copy?

15:29 <jokke> probably does

15:30 <jokke> dunno if there's a possibility to claim a pointer by some object so that it's being managed by the GC

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15:33 <BlaXpirit> i don't think it copies

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16:33 <crystal-gh> [crystal] jreinert opened pull request #1608: add SliceIO Implementation with specs (master...slice-io) http://git.io/vnhED

16:45 <grindhold> how do i cast a string of which i am sure that it only contains digits to Int32

16:45 <grindhold> as does not worlk

16:45 <grindhold> *the keyword "as"

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16:48 <jokke> (string.pointer as Pointer(Int32).value maybe

16:49 <jokke> if i understood you correctly

16:49 <jokke> if your string looks like this "123", then just use .to_i

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16:53 <crystal-gh> [crystal] technorama opened pull request #1609: New class Mmap. (master...f/mmap) http://git.io/vnhaB

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17:41 <crystal-gh> [crystal] adlerhsieh opened pull request #1610: Add methods documentation to File class (master...master) http://git.io/vnhMv

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18:07 <jokke> quiet here today2

18:07 <jokke> -2

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18:35 <crystal-gh> [crystal] kostya opened pull request #1611: add Enumerable#pmap (master...pmap) http://git.io/vnjee

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19:19 <jhass> nietzschette: check you have llvm-config

19:21 <nietzschette> llvm-config command not found!

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19:23 <jhass> you might need some llvm-devel package or whatever I guess

19:23 <jhass> BlaXpirit: it's raised before the macro is called :(

19:23 <jhass> asterite: http://carc.in/#/r/h31 my macro workaround fails at requires :/

19:28 <nietzschette> yeah, that's what I was thinking, jhass

19:29 <nietzschette> I've about had it with windows - I think i'm going back to linux here soon

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19:30 <jhass> uh, crystal is not supported on windows

19:31 <nietzschette> well, I'm trying to see how deep I can get with Msys

19:32 <nietzschette> not very

19:32 <nietzschette> it would seem

19:35 <jhass> ?windows

19:35 <DeBot> Windows support is currently developed at https://github.com/xwanderer/crystal/tree/win32/win32

19:35 <jhass> check the readme

19:38 <BlaXpirit> it's dead already :(

19:51 <nietzschette> ahh, phewey.

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19:55 <nietzschette> new computer, also new to crystal and was hoping to try it out - but I'll just wait until I re-install with some *nix. If ya'll had a fresh OS to install, what would you recommend? Arch? Debian? mint?

19:56 <jhass> if you're familiar with Arch go with that :P

19:56 <BlaXpirit> for sure

19:56 <jokke> arch++

19:56 <jhass> Crystal is in community <3

19:56 <jhass> check Antergos for a graphical installer though

19:56 <jokke> jhass: O.o

19:56 <BlaXpirit> yeah, i didnt believe what i saw :p

19:57 <jokke> i'm shocked

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19:57 <jhass> Arch's install can be overwhelming

19:57 <jokke> naaah :>

19:58 <jhass> nothing wrong with getting something premade if you feel like it

19:58 <BlaXpirit> arch install is fine, the instructions are constantly being made worse

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20:44 <trapped> how can i get the raw bytes forming an Int64?

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21:32 <BlaXpirit> trapped, http://irclog.whitequark.org/crystal-lang/2015-09-13#13993108;

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21:42 <pawnbox> Anyone up for helping me out?

21:42 <BlaXpirit> that's not how irc works

21:42 <pawnbox> BlaXpirit: Ya i kow. :)

21:43 <pawnbox> anyways i am having trouble writing specs for a fix.

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21:44 <pawnbox> https://github.com/manastech/crystal/pull/1600

21:45 <trapped> BlaXpirit: knew about that but was looking for something more generic

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21:45 <BlaXpirit> trapped, http://carc.in/#/r/h3g

21:46 <trapped> hmm

21:46 <trapped> thanks

21:47 <BlaXpirit> trapped, can also do a cast through pointers but it byte order is architecture dependent

21:47 <BlaXpirit> -it

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21:48 <trapped> BlaXpirit: i couldn't get the cast through pointers to work but not because of endianness

21:55 <BlaXpirit> trapped, http://carc.in/#/r/h3k so hax :)

21:57 <BlaXpirit> should make this use staticarray, but i was unable to

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22:07 <rmosolgo> just "finished" (ie, had enough of) my first crystal project

22:07 <rmosolgo> https://github.com/rmosolgo/crythtal

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22:07 <rmosolgo> Takeaways: CRYSTAL IS AWESOME <3

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22:07 <rmosolgo> thanks for making it :)

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22:14 <adam12> rmosolgo: very neat.

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22:17 <rmosolgo> thanks

22:17 <rmosolgo> it was great to really try it out, it looked sweet just from reading about it

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22:17 <rmosolgo> and it didn't disappoint!

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22:21 <adam12> I'm finding myself very productive in it. Will be releasing a simple library soon enough.

22:21 <adam12> A real joy to use, for sure.

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