<BlaXpirit>
what happened: some idiot wrote an idiotic message
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<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> wtf is this
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<BlaXpirit>
hm how can I make crystal doc ignore a particular file?
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> that's not possible as far as i know
<BlaXpirit>
it's an optional part of my library which has an optional dependency and i probably just don't want to generate docs for it
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<FromGitter>
<wrq> is the Code of Conduct for Crystal going to be removed, or is a free-speech fork of Crystal going to be open? I'm working on a large free-speech communication protocol, and it's unethical for me to use Crystal as it current exists. Backend is in Scala right now, and it works, but I wanted to experiment with Crystal...
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> @wrq what's that?
<FromGitter>
<wrq> in the repo, there's a Code_of_Conduct.md
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> yes
<FromGitter>
<wrq> It's unethical for anybody interested in free-speech to use Crystal because of the language of that document
<BlaXpirit>
wrq, contribute, not use
<FromGitter>
<wrq> To use is to implicitly support its development.
<BlaXpirit>
and most of that applies only for official representatives of crystal prorgamming language, as far as i understand
<BlaXpirit>
sdogruyol, ah I just explicitly point `crystal doc` to the main file that imports all the library, that works well
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> oh, that makes sense, like an intro file for docs?
<FromGitter>
<wrq> So this is a wontfix issue, then?
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> @wrq how about opening an issue or asking in google groups for that
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> would be better
<BlaXpirit>
wrq, we've had a guy come here being passive aggressive about the license, but doing no real action about it
<FromGitter>
<wrq> I'm fine with the license
<BlaXpirit>
well he was fine with the CoC (hopefully) but that's not the point
<FromGitter>
<wrq> but like I am dealing with a very large-scale backend. I really WANT to rewrite it, because I'm not a big fan of Scala, but my hands are tied unless that Code of Conduct is removed.
<BlaXpirit>
if you have real arguments against this, collect them in an organized writeup, and post that, probably in the mailing list
<BlaXpirit>
to me this is ridiculous though
<FromGitter>
<wrq> It's objectively unethical.
<BlaXpirit>
(the CoC itself is ridiculous, and calling it unethical is ridiculous)
<FromGitter>
<wrq> Thanks for taking it so serious though, I can tell you're really fighting for the users on this one.
<BlaXpirit>
wrq, i don't represent the project.
<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> @wrq i really think that you should take this to google groups or gh issues
<FromGitter>
<wrq> I never implied that you did.
<BlaXpirit>
if YOU want to be serious about it, you collect the arguments and convince people in an organized way
<FromGitter>
<wrq> I'm not a maintainer.
<FromGitter>
<wrq> I have a reasonable amount of time and money to spend developing our/my project, but at the end of the day my job is to develop it, not serve as a developer evangelist for Crystal. I'd very much like to use Crystal to do this, but I'm not obligated to herd cats to have it adhere to ethicality. It's not my language, I didn't make it, I don't own it. It speaks volumes that maintainers are not interested in this issue, and I think the
<FromGitter>
... Crystal project's success will echo accordingly.
<BlaXpirit>
wrq, how do you know maintainers are not interested?
<FromGitter>
<wrq> It's been there for 7 months.
<FromGitter>
<wrq> I've had my eye on Crystal for some time.
<RX14>
and they don't even know there's an issue
<BlaXpirit>
well maybe that's because it's not a problem, as nobody has brought it up as far as I know
<FromGitter>
<wrq> Other languages too, but Crystal in particular.
<BlaXpirit>
if you're just being passive-aggressive here at one point in time in an ephemeral chat where none of the maintainers are present, then it'll just stay this way
<FromGitter>
<wrq> That's not reassuring.
<BlaXpirit>
i should say "when" none of the maintainers are present, not "where"
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<Tophe>
hi all, about GC/Kemal , is it possible to have out of the bang GC, that 's to say have the GC run after each query has been done ?
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<FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> that's a good question. I also wanna know that :P
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<Tophe>
about kemal, how to achive stoping log to stdout
<Tophe>
when I do :
<Tophe>
Kemal.config.logging = false
<Tophe>
the server doesn't serve anything
<crystal-gh>
[crystal] asterite pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vislI
<BlaXpirit>
I would like to test my library (bindings) for GC-correctness. is there any way to force garbage collection to be fired all the time? like, after every line of code
<Tophe>
@sdogruyol : now the logging = false work but I have 18% of cpu usage by kemal proc !
<Tophe>
when I don't use the kemal apps it consume a lot of cpu (more than the prec release)
<FromGitter>
<peterschols> @crisward @RX14 @asterite thanks for the insights.
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<Yxhuvud>
"Assignment to a local variable inside an assignment to that same variable is now an error" <- hmm, that also broke assignment to a local variable with the same name as the method on the right hand side.
<Yxhuvud>
which may be ok as that is not good style but the error was a bit cryptic
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<hmans>
\o/
<asterite>
Yxhuvud: yes, that was the original thing to fix... maybe the description in the changelog isn't very good :(
<Yxhuvud>
asterite: I see that after reading the issue. I'd suggest trying to find a better compiler error as the current one is more or less nonsense for the simple case of x = x where the RHS is a method call.
<Yxhuvud>
perhaps ".. variable or method name .."
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<BlaXpirit>
doesn't the GC have cycle detection? :O