00:29 <oprypin> backtrace is here lmao https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/compare/master...oprypin:backtrace2#diff-050cb52626985bb99158b3b45accddd7fe840ad48fb1622b3829a54f99e3e4eb

00:31 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> what am i looking at

00:32 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> tfw you code in crystal for years, look at its source and like WTF

00:38 <raz> holy ravioli, youtube is down

00:39 <oprypin> ye

00:40 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> up 4 me

00:43 <FromGitter> <Daniel-Worrall> well it's a global service and it's down in many places in the UK so

00:46 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> back to soundcloud it is then

00:47 <raz> yup it's up again. twitter is funny tho (#youtubedown made it to top-tag immediately, that's like 100 tweets per second)

00:55 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> i want to live in a perfect world w/o yt or twitter

00:56 <raz> i like youtube. twitter... i only go there when youtube is down lol

01:15 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> i tried twitter in the game dev and programming communities, def not for me. i'm against the circle jerk and do not fit in at all

09:41 <frojnd> What should I do... I thought I could use this shard: https://github.com/PlaceOS/google/issues/11 in order to easily use google translate cloud. As it turns out this shard presumes I also have G-suite business account which is paid... So another option is to authenticate with oauth2 but google suggest to use their official clients

09:42 <frojnd> Google cloud translate is also paid, but I will pay like 2$/month at most...

09:42 <frojnd> So either I try to reqrite ruby client or I learn how to use oauth 2 with google cloud translate

10:03 <frojnd> And since google ruby is very big and I would have to port all these clients I think I'm stuck with oauth2 implementation

13:33 <frojnd> However I can just write a bash script with a few lines and call it a day since this is gonna be called only once per day

13:35 <FromGitter> <naqvis> +1 for bash script, as needn't to make things that complex for task which will get executed once a day :P

14:04 <raz> bash script + jenkins. the backbone of every company

14:19 <frojnd> Authentication with google is really hard not sure how I will transfer this to a server. When running gcloud (from command line) It opened my browser so I had to authenticate with my gmail account

18:23 <FromGitter> <wontruefree> what is the best way to run 1 spec file in the main crystal repo?

18:24 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `./bin/crystal spec spec/path/to/spec/file.cr`

18:28 <raz> frojnd: google translate is not very good anyway. have you looked at the deepl api? (might yield better results and be easier to integrate on top)

19:15 <FromGitter> <wontruefree> thanks @Blacksmoke16

19:36 <FromGitter> <j8r> raz +1 for Deepl

19:36 <FromGitter> <j8r> not Google is a plus :)

20:44 <FromGitter> <melopee> Hey, I am new to crystal

20:45 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> o/

20:45 <FromGitter> <melopee> quick question about the `crystal` command (the compiler): is it normal that some options for the subcommand `run` do not behave the same whether `run` is explicit or not?

20:46 <FromGitter> <melopee> the exemple I run into is:

20:47 <FromGitter> <melopee> ~$ crystal hello.cr -o hello ⏎ Hello ⏎ ~$ ls ⏎ hello.cr ⏎ ~$ crystal run hello.cr -o hello ... [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5fad9f46bf955735eb76a57e]

20:47 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> :thinking:

20:47 <FromGitter> <melopee> where there is just 'puts "Hello"' in hello.cr

20:47 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> what are you trying to do exactly tho? just run that file, or build a binary based on that file?

20:48 <FromGitter> <melopee> I want to run the file, and output the binary with -o

20:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `crystal build hello.cr`

20:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> wait, run and build the file at the same time?

20:48 <FromGitter> <melopee> thanks, I know `build`, I was just pointing this inconsistency

20:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> prob an edge case in handling non `run` based args? :shrug:

20:50 <FromGitter> <melopee> if `run` is the default, the two commands that I have used should be equivalent, shouldn't they?

20:53 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> looks like they differ slightly, sec

20:54 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/pull/9171 prob related

21:06 <FromGitter> <melopee> yeah this is the same, without run, every argument after the first file is passed to the program, not the compiler

21:06 <FromGitter> <melopee> $ echo 'puts ARGV[0]; puts ARGV[1]' > hello.cr ⏎ $ crystal hello.cr -o hello ⏎ -o ⏎ hello ⏎ $ [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5fada3f28d286f2076a6a5da]

21:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> rgr

21:23 <FromGitter> <j8r> this `crystal` command is not that great

21:24 <FromGitter> <j8r> if you have a file named `run` or `build`... great

21:25 <FromGitter> <j8r> this command has no point. If one want a shortband, just create an alias

21:40 <straight-shoota> @melopee Arguments to `run` command need to be passed *before* the filename. Everything *after* the filename is passed to the program. `man crystal`

21:41 <straight-shoota> @j8r Yeah, if a file conflicts with a command, you have to use `crystal run` explicitly. I don't think that's a huge issue.

22:28 <FromGitter> <j8r> probably not, just find that having only way here will be less confusing. There is one command superior, more documented with more feature than the other

22:29 <FromGitter> <j8r> just to "save" 4 chars ` run`... :shrug:

23:43 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> @melopee welcome!!

23:44 <FromGitter> <ImAHopelessDev_gitlab> @melopee how are you liking crystal?