<incomprehensibly>
does that amount to full blown strong ai
<alexgordon2>
LOL it's just a minimisation algorithm :P
<purr>
LOL
<incomprehensibly>
haha
<incomprehensibly>
feels like that's what intelligence is
<alexgordon2>
I'm convinced that intelligence == memory
<incomprehensibly>
of course
<incomprehensibly>
like depending on what state of mind i'm in sometimes it's obvious like
<incomprehensibly>
if your short term memory is shrunk/less accurate
<incomprehensibly>
you can't hold a convesration thread as well
<incomprehensibly>
and then you really realize how much you take for granted the role memory plays in a conversation
<incomprehensibly>
you know?
<alexgordon2>
welllll
<alexgordon2>
when you say someone is "intelligent" what they usually mean is that they have a good memory
<alexgordon2>
like I was pretty good in school, I suppose, but I didn't feel smart
<alexgordon2>
I just had a good memory to remember everything
<incomprehensibly>
oh right
<alexgordon2>
but from the outside, that's what intelligence is
<incomprehensibly>
i was saying "intelligence" in the "what are brains" way
<incomprehensibly>
but i also really agree with that
<incomprehensibly>
like, when i help my friend with his cs homework then usually it's like
<alexgordon2>
I'm sure if you go to a really smart person and ask them if they're intelligent they'd say the same thing "nah I just have a good memory for X"
<incomprehensibly>
i've seen the shape of this problem before, read a blog post about it, or something
<incomprehensibly>
i've just amassed enough facts, though some are kind of abstract facts
<alexgordon2>
right
<alexgordon2>
the other aspect of intelligence is of course creativity, aka the opposite of risk aversion
<alexgordon2>
(this feels like a lesswrong thread LOL)
<purr>
LOL
<incomprehensibly>
haha
<incomprehensibly>
i really like lesswrong although i really hate it
<alexgordon2>
it's a bunch of smart people talking about things they know nothing about
<incomprehensibly>
like i want to have that kind of conversation all the time but i also hate the kind of people who talk about it
<incomprehensibly>
:p
<alexgordon2>
life's too short to not ponder these things though :P
<incomprehensibly>
also everyone's way too sure they've taken into account every bias and thought of every possibilit
<incomprehensibly>
y
<incomprehensibly>
definitely
<alexgordon2>
but anyway, some people are really set in their ways and only do things "by the book", you could call them "uncreative" or "risk-averse"
<alexgordon2>
other people go complete insane like elliott
<incomprehensibly>
haha
<alexgordon2>
sometimes they win, sometimes they lose
<alexgordon2>
but they're more likely to hit on a winning strategy than the uncreative people
<incomprehensibly>
mhm
<alexgordon2>
einstein could have been completely wrong
<incomprehensibly>
i think about this a lot regarding making music/art
<alexgordon2>
if so we would never have remembered him, he might have got in physics books as a footnote
<incomprehensibly>
like i'm sometimes worried the way i think about music is too like calculated/career-focused
<alexgordon2>
but he took risks with his theories (in addition to having a good memory) and that's how he was sucessful
<incomprehensibly>
like people say "just make what you like"
<alexgordon2>
incomprehensibly: yah, well I've said for a long time that music is just another natural language and should be taught like one
<incomprehensibly>
but i want to make something that 1. i will love and 2. will have a chance at some level of commercial and critical success
<incomprehensibly>
:p
<incomprehensibly>
like luckily self consciously sticking to what you love in the face of like commercial pressures can sometimes be better for both those things
<incomprehensibly>
but yeah
<alexgordon2>
incomprehensibly: today is the best time, pretty much ever, to be a musician
<alexgordon2>
I can put a recording studio in my backpack
<alexgordon2>
it's insane
<alexgordon2>
the first time I did it, I couldn't believe it
<incomprehensibly>
haha
<alexgordon2>
I was like "I HAVE A FUCKING RECORDING STUDIO IN MY BACKPACK"
<alexgordon2>
anybody can put out an album now
<incomprehensibly>
i just don't put mine in my backpack a lot because i'm scared to damage it :p
<alexgordon2>
they just need musical ability, and a quite space to record in
<alexgordon2>
*quiet
<alexgordon2>
even 15 years ago that was unthinkable
<alexgordon2>
if you were a musician you had to go to a recording studio and pay a ton of money
<incomprehensibly>
making something lo fi has way less meaning now
<incomprehensibly>
like it's a gimmick rather than a significant economic choice