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<ELLIOTTCABLE> wow this pink tho
* vigs waves
<vigs> School starts back up tomorrow so I'll have to dip pretty soon :(
<ELLIOTTCABLE> vigs: oh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> that's dumb
<vigs> right?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> it's fine, I don't really Internet much right now *anyway*
<ELLIOTTCABLE> my whole computer setup is pretty disassembled and kinda has been for a few weeks, so I haven't really felt like computering very much
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hence Twitter quietness
<ELLIOTTCABLE> as for IRC, I've been terrible at that for like a year already, so lol watevs
<purr> lol
<ELLIOTTCABLE> god i miss u purr
<vigs> Yeah, I've been relatively quiet the past few months. Working full-time does that, I guess.
<vigs> Computering all the time stinks. Good for you, not computering so much
<vigs> I've resigned myself to the fact that when I'm working full-time, the only chance I'll get to work on projects or music is on the weekends or for an hour or so late at night
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ugh
<ELLIOTTCABLE> computers are dum
<vigs> they are
<ELLIOTTCABLE> i am
<ELLIOTTCABLE> cleaning and organizing and preparing to *have office-space again*
<ELLIOTTCABLE> after my second bedroom laying dormant for, like, a year, ever since Chelsea moved out
ELLIOTTCABLE changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a ρяєтту тєяяιвℓє cult
<vigs> There's something cathartic about cleaning
<ELLIOTTCABLE> hm
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I wonder if there's a secure way to do a local-side ‘This wasn't your password last time you tried it’ in an app
<vigs> core data
* vigs chuckles for a second
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Like, without a round-trip to the server exposing various passwords you're trying to theoretically-pathologically-possible MITM'ing or something, *at all*
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just keep a cache of hashed ‘things I've tried with the server before’ locally, and whether they failed
<ELLIOTTCABLE> as you're typing, “Unless you've recently changed your password, this is probably incorrect.”
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I always end up typing a dozen passwords into some apps that fall ambiguously on the boundaries between different passwords I use
<whitequark> you don't have to expose plaintext password to the server either
<whitequark> assuming you control the authentication mechanism, you can hash it on the client, with a salt unique to the application
* ELLIOTTCABLE nods
<whitequark> but yeah, storing appropriately salted hashes locally also works.
<whitequark> well, not 'salted'. use scrypt or something
<ELLIOTTCABLE> fucking fuck, Harmony
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<ELLIOTTCABLE> ugh
<rurik> hi ELLIOTTCABLE
<ELLIOTTCABLE> ugh I feel like death
<ELLIOTTCABLE> mostly because I spent the entire night wrestling with MyHarmony
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what a fucking terrible piece of software
<ELLIOTTCABLE> what a terrible *ecosystem*, period
<rurik> ELLIOTTCABLE, what is MyHarmony?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> this monstrosity. http://ell.io/i1hOtN
<rurik> ah, that universal remote thing
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<pikajude> putting the "harm" in "harmony"
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