08:36 <ELLIOTTCABLE> hi loves

08:42 <ELLIOTTCABLE> I am like. remarkably bad. at ocaml things.

10:02 <ELLIOTTCABLE> fuuuuuck I hate not having powerstrips at conferences.

10:02 <ELLIOTTCABLE> on the bright side: 60,000mAh battery built into my backpack like a fucking boss

10:17 <joepie91> ELLIOTTCABLE: pack more powerstrips!

10:17 <joepie91> bring an entire bag of them!

10:17 <ELLIOTTCABLE> Oh, hon, I'm so far ahead of you 🤣

10:17 <ELLIOTTCABLE> Got power-distribution built in (jankily, but still) to my bag

10:17 <ELLIOTTCABLE> tend to share it with people at my table, when I can

10:17 <joepie91> right :P

10:17 <ELLIOTTCABLE> problem is when confs don't think ahead about this, there's no way to get power *to the table*

10:18 <joepie91> lots of extension cords?

10:18 <joepie91> and the wall socket in the bathroom

10:18 <ELLIOTTCABLE> can't carry a cord and just string it over the ground to one of the, idk, four(?) wall outlets in the entire room, y'know? dangerous, etc

10:18 <joepie91> pft

10:18 <joepie91> just tape it down

10:18 <joepie91> ELLIOTTCABLE: I'm only slightly serious :P

10:27 <ELLIOTTCABLE> joepie91: I kno I kno

10:27 <ELLIOTTCABLE> but it's a real problem — basically whoever gets near to the plugs first, gets power; and everyone else is screwed

10:28 <ELLIOTTCABLE> similar to the recurring issue with conf organizers *always* failing to successfully convince the venue operators how serious the network demands of technical-conference attendees are going to be :P

10:28 <ELLIOTTCABLE> “oh u have 400 attendees, our network can definitely handle 200 simultaneous devices, we've done this many times”

10:28 <ELLIOTTCABLE> oh, honey. this is developers. think more like 3 simultaneous devices per attendee.

10:29 <ELLIOTTCABLE> I've been to … *two* conferences, ever, where the WiFi hasn't gone down halfway thru? :P

10:29 <ELLIOTTCABLE> ignore me sigh

11:18 <joepie91> ELLIOTTCABLE: try the European hacker events :P

11:18 <joepie91> they've got their network shit down

11:18 <joepie91> chaos communication congress, SHA2017 and such

11:18 <joepie91> organizers typically bring their own pile of hardware

11:19 <joepie91> result: a fucking *campsite* with reliable wifi throughout, despite literally thousands of devices being connected

11:19 <joepie91> (in fact, the conference badge that every participant got, used wifi: https://wiki.sha2017.org/w/Projects:Badge )

17:09 <jfhbrook> hah

17:10 <jfhbrook> I refuse to go to a european conference

17:12 <joepie91> jfhbrook: why? :P

17:15 <jfhbrook> europeans are all ultra smug, it's well known

17:29 <joepie91> jfhbrook: sure, but we also have reason to be :D

17:31 <jfhbrook> see that's why I'm not going to your conference

17:32 <jfhbrook> for real tho I'd do something chill in like berlin or something but hopefully w/ a friend and not like hacker-focused like ccc

17:32 <jfhbrook> I could get down for something about functional programming but not right wing like lambdaconf

17:35 <ELLIOTTCABLE> ditched so hard

17:35 <ELLIOTTCABLE> and yah joepie91 I am aware

17:35 <ELLIOTTCABLE> the best implementations I've seen of industry confs had a similar approach: screw trying to convince the venue, bring in outside contractors and custom hardware.

17:36 <joepie91> yeah

17:37 <joepie91> ELLIOTTCABLE: took the CCC a few iterations to get it right too, though :)