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<superkuh> Pretty sure there's no large scale production using EUV yet.
<superkuh> Still 193 nm for everything.
<superkuh> ... and I'm only a day late.
<superkuh> And he left.
<sync> pretty sure it is not superkuh
<jcay> superkuh: what resolution do they get with 193 nm?
<superkuh> I think Intel's "14nm" stuff has ~25nm features. Uses double (triple) patterning.
<superkuh> Er, (triple?)
<jcay> hm, why is it called 14nm if they get 25nm features?
<superkuh> Because marketing.
<jcay> just to impress buyers?
<superkuh> And that's the head of the pack. Global Foundries has a 7nm node with bigger features than Intel's 14.
<sync> well, it depends on what you call 14nm
<jcay> they just call it, 14nm technology, whatever that should impose
<jcay> probably the beam, effectively being 14nm can create a reliable structure of 20-30nm
<sync> well you can get smaller strucutres than your wavelength or pattern
<jcay> sure, wavelength is 193nm
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