00:56 <Noxz> I'm hype on this engine turning after having my hands on some machines

00:57 <Noxz> if only they didn't cost 10k+

01:41 <nmz787> can you make some hybrid version using mostly easily sourced modern alternatives/stand-ins

01:41 <nmz787> ?

01:42 <Noxz> sorta, yes

01:42 <Noxz> the straight line machine I feel would be much easier than the rose(radial) one

01:43 <Noxz> the main thing is keeping everything faced flat + true

01:43 <Noxz> I do have a half built CNC machine I should finish some time

01:44 <Noxz> I got shitty used linear bearing swhich sorta made me stop, plus looking at prices of 80/20 aluminum extrusion profiles.. not prices of the stuff, but delivery

01:44 <Noxz> shipping on 80/20 is bad if you are on the west coast of the US

01:44 <nmz787> mmm

01:44 <nmz787> I am in OR

01:44 <Noxz> I'm up in WA now

01:44 <nmz787> I ordered some fake stuff a year ago from aliexpress I think

01:44 <Noxz> but I was in CA when building it out, and even sourced a distrubtor to make getting it easier

01:45 <Noxz> but basically lost most of my nots on it

01:45 <nmz787> it seemed decent quality, but not sure I'd assume it was the best

01:45 <Noxz> bosch rails I think is the other competitor?

01:45 <Noxz> main one

01:45 <nmz787> hmm

01:45 <Noxz> I will likely still endup going with 80/20

01:45 <Noxz> I just need to bite the bullet and do it

01:45 <Noxz> like $2k to get the machine going isnt bad

01:46 <Noxz> btw, it's like 3x3x2 ft

01:46 <Noxz> kinda big

01:46 <Noxz> but I have the control, steppers, linear ball screws, the tool drive (a hitachi router) ..

01:47 <Noxz> some linear bearings

01:47 <Noxz> some were brand new and are good

01:47 <Noxz> I tried rebuilding/lubing others, to no avail

01:47 <Noxz> thats when I sorta stopped, that and not pulllling the trigger on buying 80/20

01:48 <Noxz> but yeah, I am basically looking up CNC machines again

01:48 <Noxz> even just making it a manual miling machine would be fine for most parts

01:49 <Noxz> lathe isnt really needed for the straight line

01:49 <Noxz> just time and energy to design something

01:50 <Noxz> I was also in an apartment complex before

01:50 <Noxz> not ideal

01:50 <Noxz> for trying to build stuff

01:50 <Noxz> so much more freedom now.. I dont live in the woods where I can do what have you at 2am, but yeah

01:53 <Noxz> reason I got the hitachi router was that it is compatible with a precision bosch replacement spindle/chuck

01:54 <Noxz> another uncompleted project..

22:20 <Noxz> I've been designing a straight line engine machine all day, hah

22:20 <Noxz> solves a few issues I encountered

22:21 <Noxz> more so bringing all common adjustments to the front, as one of them I had to keep reaching towards the back of the machine (to phase the pattern bar) and practically had to stand up for it

22:23 <Noxz> also the advancer drives a lead/ball screw to a driven nut.. but why not drive/rotate the nut against a stationary screw, that way that control is within hands reach, nto arms reach

22:24 <Noxz> but, what do I know, 12hrs of contact with the machines

22:27 <SpeedEvil> (slides a 45cm desk surface out 90cm)

22:27 <Noxz> I had planned something like that with this desk, but as soon as I got 4 legs going I had to plop my computer on it and havent actually finished it, heh

22:28 <Noxz> still have most of the wood for it too

22:30 <Noxz> but yeah, recently learned what scraping is w/ slides (dovetails), that was most of my youtube time last night

22:31 <Noxz> I think I have nearly always looked at linear bearings and never thought about what was done before (it's still in use) ball bearings came out

22:31 <Noxz> and also how much more load it distributes

22:31 <Noxz> just, does not seem very replaceable, and in some cases, not really serviceable.. some, but not entirely

22:35 <SpeedEvil> Well, if it can last a thousand slides, ...

22:36 <Noxz> sure, I thnk the biggest aspect of it is they are capable of resting or going to the same location time and time again, whereas I would think ball bearings with much less/limited contact would wear out indexes faster