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<inetic> Hello, I just saw this github/issue comment https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3860#issuecomment-432074267 , it does make sense to me that NATs are the issue. But if that is the case, than how is it possible that IPFS-CID resolutions/downloads are so fast?
<inetic> There must be some workarounds, right? Do you guys have servers which download and seed all the content whenever possible?
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<miceiken> How do IPFS indexers typically work? Can it request the full DHT from nodes?
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<hsanjuan> miceiken: they just sniff the DHT
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<hugbubby> What is latency like on the IPFS network?
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<r0kk3rz> depends on what you mean by latency
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<hugbubby> time-to-first-byte
<r0kk3rz> it varies quite a bit, could be quick, can be really slow
<hugbubby> hmm. so hosting web pages, would the retrieval speed be inconsistent?
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<r0kk3rz> certainly
<hugbubby> where is the average compared to the "regular" centralized web?
<hugbubby> is it close enough to need formal analysis or is it obviously lower-or-higher latency from a user perspective?
<r0kk3rz> its quite noticable most of the time
<hugbubby> noticably bad?
<r0kk3rz> noticably slower i mean
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<Swedneck> The problem is that browsers aren't using ipfs yet
<r0kk3rz> thats one problem, but the resolution time doing ipfs cat isnt amazing either at times
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<hugbubby> If someone were to get a pull request to firefox merged that allowed it total native IPFS url support, would latency still be bad?
<hugbubby> And is that an inherent limitation to the decentralized data store model?
<r0kk3rz> well, it depends on who you're connected to and what you're looking for
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<r0kk3rz> if its popular content, could be quite quick
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<hugbubby> I see. So accessing resources on IPFS is faster for content everybody on the network retrieves, is that right?
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<r0kk3rz> because things are content addressed, your node has to figure out where it can get content from
<r0kk3rz> the rarer the content is, the longer that can take
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<hugbubby> Is IPFS pinning the equivalent of choosing a specific IPFS file to store?
<hugbubby> and distribute to the network?
<di[m]> i'm running an ipfs daemon on 127.0.21.1 . I set up iptables rules that prevent 127.0.21.0/24 to reach outside the 127.0.21.0/24 net. I pointed the firefox ipfs companion (api and gateway) to 127.0.21.1, but the ipfs companion says "Failed to determine local IPFS version. Is the IPFS daemon running?". what am I doing wrong?
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<JCaesar> hugbubby: yes. but youll also share files in your cache.
<lidel> di[m], you can go to about:debugging in firefox and click "Debug" on Companion card, then switch to "Console", enable "XHR" and "Request" log and see that went wrong.
<lidel> *what
<di[m]> ohhh I'm dumb. firefox is not using a 127.0.21.0/24 address as source, so of course it's not working
<di[m]> thanks lidel
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<di[m]> hm, 403 errors don't look like routing problems though, right? and I see firefox making connections from 127.0.21.1 in `ss -anp`
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<Mo0O> di[m]: maybe check your cors
<Mo0O> ~/.ipfs/config API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin sould contain http://127.0.0.1:5001 and eventualy http://localhost:5001
<Mo0O> also set API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Credentials to true
<Mo0O> and API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Methods to ["PUT", "GET", "POST"]
<Mo0O> hope this help
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<di[m]> Mo0O (IRC): when I try to set Access-Control-Allow-Origin, i get this error http://termbin.com/1a8j
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<Mo0O> di[m]: you can edit ~/.ipfs/config directly using your favourite editor
<Mo0O> it's just a json file
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<di[m]> when I do that `ipfs daemon` fails with the same error
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<Mo0O> hmm, weird… this came from my own config
<Mo0O> which version of go-ipfs are you using?
<Mo0O> ipfs version 0.4.17
<Mo0O> here
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<di[m]> `ipfs id` says "go-ipfs/0.4.17/"
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<Mo0O> di[m]: http://sprunge.us/QQUcUc here is the part of the config I'm talking about
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<di[m]> it works when I add "Access-Control-Allow-Origin", sa yay
<Mo0O> \o/
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<di[m]> oh, it's true inside a list, not a string or the json value "true"
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<Mo0O> yep, better pasting my own config
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<di[m]> what's the difference between the webui's "add file" and `ipfs add $file` ?
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<ctOS> Is there a way to exclude specific files or patterns with `ipfs add -r directory/`?
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<buoyantair__> What is the difference between ipfs and dat protocol?
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<buoyantair__> It looks like both serve the same purpose
<buoyantair__> To store data in a distributed way
<buoyantair__> are there any differences / pros and cons?
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<r0kk3rz> ones called dat, the other is called ipfs
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<tperson> buoyantair__: The dat project itself has a FAQ for this https://docs.datproject.org/faq#dat-vs, also check out this discussion https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/119
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<buoyantair__> tperson: Thanks!!
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<hugbubby> How can I prove to an outside observer that I've pinned a file?
<Swedneck> i wonder if IPFS and DAT will ever be able to merge
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<Swedneck> feels kinda silly to split the userbase and development between the 2 protocols
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<tperson> hugbubby: Have you read the Filecoin white paper?
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<Kolonka[m]> like a regex addition ctOS? that would be a nice touch
<Swedneck> lgierth: any progress on the matrix side? I'm currently working on bridging discord for another community so i might be able to help
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<ctOS> Kolonka[m]: well, anything really. There are like two or three files that don't need to be included when I add directions to IPFS.
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<di[m]> assemble a list of files, and then add the files from the list
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<tperson> ctOS: I don't think there is a super easy way to do this. If you don't mind adding the files, and then removing them, you could use mfs to help remove files and get the final hash.
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<Ryuno-Ki[m]> The closest thing I found is UnixFS - but the link to GitHub is broken (404)
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<cipres> in which version of go-ipfs approximately were the 'ipfs dag' (new dag API) commands introduced ? 'been reading the changelog i'd say around 0.4.5 ?
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<tperson> cipres: Yes, they were added in 0.4.5
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<RoyalJello> Hey guys. Why hasn't anyone made a good channel website on Blockchain yet?
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<cipres> tperson: thanks!
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