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<GitHub167>
[jruby] etehtsea opened pull request #4203: Get rid of code dup in ServerSocket#bind (master...refactor-server-socket) https://git.io/vPGyL
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<yopp>
Literally OpenCL, because it's only sane option on osx
<chrisseaton>
That poster is the only work on that, and it's designed to be used for annotated lambdas I think, rather than automatically offloading arbitrary Java methods to the GPU, which still seems like a bit of an ambitious goal
<chrisseaton>
There's some published papers and maybe talk recordings by the same person on that project
<yopp>
Um.
<yopp>
Okay.
<chrisseaton>
You sound really disappointed?
<yopp>
Not really, just a bit
<yopp>
Stupid question: would this work with ruby as frontend?
<chrisseaton>
Yes, that could be a good project for someone to try
<chrisseaton>
After Graal has finished the graph for Ruby programs looks a lot like Java programs, so the same conversion to OpenCL could work
<yopp>
Because ML making a lot of buzz, and ruby seems left outside of this topic coz "Oh, Ruby is so slow. Nope."
<yopp>
And having GPU acceleration for some math can change this dramatically.
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<yopp>
it seems like there no code released yet
<yopp>
I can't find anything about tornado
<yopp>
And here just a few talks and whitepapers, half of them I've already seen :|
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<yopp>
chrisseaton, maybe you know why Sumatra is not developed anymore?
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<chrisseaton>
I'm afraid I don't know that
<chrisseaton>
I don't think GPUs are a realistic way to make normal Ruby code fast though
<yopp>
Thats true, but I see it more like ability to explicitly offload some of the work to GPU. Like matrixes and stuff.
<etehtsea_>
headius I didn't get their release process. They cut patch-release without this fix (https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/blob/master/History.txt). In the meantime 2.6.7 release broke for me default behavior. It simply ignored that gem could be default and removed all of them. So I reverted update to 2.6.7
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<GitHub115>
[jruby] headius opened issue #4205: Update RubyGems for 9.1.6.0 https://git.io/vPZNC
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<headius>
etehtsea_: done
<etehtsea_>
headius thanks!
<etehtsea_>
first 50 commits, hurray!
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<haylon>
I think I'm doing something wrong when calling this JRuby script from the JRuby GitHub Wiki page, https://github.com/jruby/jruby/wiki/JRubyAndJavaCodeExamples#JRuby_calling_Java. Keeps saying it can't find the classes, even though they're in the same directory as the script. So I used the -J-cp . option and JRuby still couldn't load the .class files. Then I added $CLASSPATH << "." to the JRuby script, and its still not loading the .class files. How should
<haylon>
I make sure those class files are being loaded?
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<headius>
haylon: and the class files for your code are in ./com/example/ ?
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<headius>
dunno if you are familiar with Java, but the dir structure to the .class files must match the package for them to be found
<GitHub115>
[jruby] chrisseaton pushed 1 new commit to truffle-head: https://git.io/vPnlC
<GitHub115>
jruby/truffle-head d7ca7b7 Chris Seaton: Revert "Revert "[Truffle] Use Array#{max,min} from rubinius""...
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<haylon>
headius: no? I guess I'll try that out. I suppose that's something to learn for Java, eh?
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<haylon>
headius: that worked, Thank you very much!
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<headius>
chrisseaton: you don't get your revert badge until you revert a revert of a revert
<chrisseaton>
I've been trying to get this commit merged forever
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<chrisseaton>
headius: do you use macOS Mail to send email? I'm trying to understand why my message to MLVM has no line breaks but everyone else's does. I always get this when I post to a mailing list and I fear it makes me look like a newboy http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/mlvm-dev/2016-October/006724.html
<yopp>
chrisseaton, you are not. If you are using standard formatting, this is a case. If you need a line breaks, just add them manually.
<chrisseaton>
But then this web interface mangles it terribly
<chrisseaton>
I don't know why it renders it in a <pre>
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<yopp>
No idea. But if you are really worried about that, just switch to "plain text"
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<headius>
why it's taking HTML and stripping it to one big <pre>, that I don' tknow
<headius>
the HTML you sent looks mostly ok
<chrisseaton>
Smart quotes are just normal unicode characters though aren't they?
<headius>
yes, and the archive is not renderin git as such
<chrisseaton>
Everyone complains about them but they were only weird when they were specific to Word in the early 90s
<headius>
rendering it
<headius>
they're still weird, man :-)
<chrisarcand>
headius: What do you use? I have a love/hate relationship with Gmail for the past few years (because I too, loathe Mail.app)
<headius>
I hate smart quotes almost as much as Mail.app
<headius>
smart quotes are not useful enough to justify making plain text into multibyte text and all the problems that go with that
<GitHub160>
[jruby] raelik opened issue #4206: Kernel#sleep swallows InterruptedException https://git.io/vPnXy
<headius>
chrisarcand: Just Gmail :-\ it's not perfect but I haven't found anything better
<chrisseaton>
I can't write most of my colleagues names without going into multi-byte
<chrisarcand>
Same boat. Sigh.
<headius>
I tried Inbox but it doesn't have an option to NOT compose with rich text
<headius>
that's an automatic disqualification for me
<headius>
I'm using the categorized inbox view in gmail, which is good enough
<chrisarcand>
I currently use Kiwi for Gmail, which makes it feel a bit more standalone, but I have to admit Kiwi kind of blows and has all sorts of its own issues.
<headius>
I don't know if I've tried that one
<headius>
I went on a tear trying every client I could find last year and they're all awful
<headius>
email is one of those things
<chrisarcand>
It's meh. I think I still prefer it over an open set of pinned tabs in the browser but...it's flakey at times.
<headius>
what I really want is a mail client that has a workflow I can customize
<headius>
so I could put emails into "to do" or "pending" or whatever more easily
<headius>
chrisseaton: good point
<headius>
I don't usually care about smart quotes until they mess up a code snippit
<headius>
and that ALWAYS happens when I have smart quotes on, so I always disable them
<headius>
chrisseaton: anyway...I don't think this is really Mail.app's fault because the HTML the archive claims it scrubbed looks fine
<headius>
there's no reason it should be wrapping...it's the archive viewer that's busted
<chrisseaton>
When I post to big mailing lists I often compose in a text editor but I forgot this time
<GitHub194>
[jruby] chrisseaton closed pull request #3322: [Truffle] Use Array#{max,min} from rubinius (master...test-array-max-min) https://git.io/vZo7c
<headius>
chrisseaton: sounds like a hassle
* yopp
meanwhile hates reading whitepapers
<chrisseaton>
Yeah but if your whole community is reading the list and forming an opinion on you with it
<headius>
yopp: I had to write one once...I was ashamed of how much market-speak I ended up using
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<yopp>
Market-speak is good.
<yopp>
Simple things are good.
<yopp>
Whitepapers are mostly terrible.
<headius>
indeed
<headius>
chrisarcand: Does RHT mail work through gmail?
<headius>
I still have to 2FA but that would be better than logging into VPN for damn sure
<headius>
so Kiwi basically gives you a standalone process that's a view of gmail with a few extras...that's nice
<headius>
one complaint about gmail would be gone for me...that it has to be tied to the browser
<yopp>
At this point I've ended up somewhere at 10th level of references on the bloody first page.
<yopp>
Why on the earth it easier to find simple explanation on the some random blog, than in whitepaper
<chrisarcand>
headius: Oh man, are you using Zimbra for RH still?
<headius>
chrisarcand: and clawing my eyes out every time
<headius>
how do I get email to show up in gmail? all I have are the initial six emails about my new gmail account
<headius>
I just had to have them fix my redhat google account because it disappeared
<chrisarcand>
O_o I am so, so sorry. Fortunately, there's a cure. Unforunately, it's annoying. Go on mojo and look up gmail stuff, you have to have whatever team migrate you to gmail off zimbra. They do it in batches.
<headius>
oh wow
<headius>
this is the best day ever
<chrisarcand>
I ran from Zimbra the moment they announced. And it is amazing.
<headius>
I guess I should have read the fine print about the new google accounts
<chrisarcand>
Sounds like you might enjoy Kiwi then; I'd give it a try. Sometimes it needs to be reloaded and gets funny but works most of the time, adds OSX native notifications if you like, and is a tabbable app (instead of just another browser window)
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<headius>
will do
<headius>
there used to be an app that did this generically for Chrome but I think it went away
<headius>
basically gave you a .app that was just Chrome on a specific page
<fryguy9>
fluid I think was the app
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<headius>
fryguy9: that was it
<headius>
chrisarcand: don't suppose you have a good way to do Google Auth without a device, do ya?
<headius>
I tried to find some desktop-installable app and they all failed in some way
<chrisarcand>
No, but what are you trying to avoid? Should be able to use normal 2FA pw pairing for a while (not every time you open it)
<chrisarcand>
I usually have to enter back in every few weeks, IIRC.
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<headius>
that's a good point
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<headius>
it's not like VPN that drops every time I close the lid
<headius>
chrisarcand: I owe you a beer, thanks
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<chrisarcand>
headius: You owe me nothing, but I'd still love a beer! Maybe a little get-together with @chrisseaton and anyone else here going to RubyConf?
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<chrisseaton>
chrisarcand: yeah sounds great
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