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[jruby-openssl] kares pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vMMHz
<GitHub77>
jruby-openssl/master dc4599c kares: test that we read authority keyid back just fine (for a while now)...
<GitHub77>
jruby-openssl/master c84ba85 kares: start removing MRI's OpenSSL test files we (still) never run...
<GitHub58>
[jruby] kares closed issue #994: Certificates generated using jruby-openssl have a bad value for Authority Key Identifier, CRL Distribution Points and Authority Information Access https://git.io/vMMHg
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jruby/master dd801d7 Thomas E Enebo: Merge pull request #4447 from manu-crealytics/fix_gzipreader_position...
<GitHub50>
jruby/master cf15b61 Manuel Rodríguez Guimeráns: Fix GzipReader "position" update for #each and #each_line.
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<eonwe>
Hey, is there any way to force the JRuby JIT to dump the classes it compiles somewhere? Or maybe they already are?
<eonwe>
I am suspecting that there's some miscompilation happening on some occasions, but I have very little information on what's compiled and how. I think the first one I can get logged with command line option though
<GitHub42>
jruby/master a2f5752 Thomas E. Enebo: Have bytecode generation use String name vs int value so if basic signatures ever change we do not stuff varargs in the wrong place
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<chrisseaton>
There's JIT logging options yes
<chrisseaton>
I think -X... will list them
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<eonwe>
I guess jit.codeCache could be abused for that purpose
<chrisseaton>
enebo: I have the perfect deoptimisation strategy for you - just delete your JIT - I has worked well for Rubinius
<chrisseaton>
*it* has worked well
<enebo>
chrisseaton: It definitely removes having to worry about it
<lopex>
enebo: occams razor
<enebo>
lopex: hmm?
<lopex>
enebo: keep it simple
<enebo>
lopex: I hope that was simple :)
<lopex>
enebo: but not simpler :P
<enebo>
lopex: like deleting our JIT?
<lopex>
yeah
<lopex>
enebo: well vna makes it complex in a way
<lopex>
get rid of vna
<enebo>
VNA?
<lopex>
von neuman arch
<lopex>
chrisseaton, nirvdrum: you must be subscribed to all ruby related media, I see you're comments related to truffle everywhere like reddit, hn etc
<lopex>
any new good beers recommended ?
<lopex>
enebo: ^^ ?
<enebo>
lopex: not really…we have way too many brett/sours now in US
<nirvdrum>
lopex: I casually participate in /r/ruby. It's not very high volume.
<nirvdrum>
Then just Twitter and HN really.
<chrisseaton>
Yeah you can check /r/ruby once a week and see it all
<lopex>
I use mostly reddit and hn (and some mailing lists)
<lopex>
oh, and now some slack and gitter apart from irc
<lopex>
chrisseaton: maybe I have too many feeds in my thb
<lopex>
and get the impression of them more attended
<enebo>
lopex: yeah I am over saturated on sour beers right now
<enebo>
lopex: almost to the point of appreciating lagers
<lopex>
enebo: haha, I also had the feeling
<lopex>
and I was very surprised by that feeling
<enebo>
lopex: but IPA, PA, Stouts I still like and I have not stopped liking them
<lopex>
enebo: but we have quite a few of lager experiments here, based on american hops as well
<enebo>
lopex: OTOH imperial stours went too high abv wise…I see some brewers going back down
<enebo>
lopex: 13% abv stouts are common in US right now
<lopex>
enebo: like hiding the alc was the problem ?
<lopex>
enebo: yeah, 13 is a lot
<enebo>
lopex: just too much
<enebo>
lopex: I think 10% is usually better
<lopex>
enebo: I prefer greater amount of complex sugars
<lopex>
aka the body
<enebo>
lopex: 13% has so much body it feels like you are being inhabited by a plum doppleganger
<lopex>
even 15% upped by lower sugars feels shallow
<lopex>
enebo: do you feel the same ?
<enebo>
lopex: I am not sure…yeah it might be the same…I know this brewery which makes some high abv beers but they all taste watery
<enebo>
lopex: I wondered if they used only simple sugars (like sugar) to get the abv and it tastes thin
<enebo>
lopex: maybe you or your brother knows
<lopex>
enebo: hah, just wanted to ask
<enebo>
lopex: I never actually remember to ask whenever I am around someone who may know…so do ask :)
<lopex>
enebo: he's becoming really good to the point I think about putting some money on him
<enebo>
lopex: is craft still expanding in poland?
<lopex>
enebo: yes, but not as visible in media like it was 3-4 years ago
<enebo>
lopex: but if I go to a random restaurant am I likely to see a craft beer there?
<lopex>
enebo: some medium sized breweries are still appearing, but most go home brewing I think
<enebo>
lopex: when I was last there that was not the case
<lopex>
enebo: it improves, but I dont think so (yet)
<lopex>
enebo: steadely but slowly
<enebo>
lopex: someone told me last time I was there it is tough to change this with Polish drinkers because they do not want to pay more for it
<lopex>
enebo: restaurants are most reluctant
<lopex>
enebo: yes, the one reason
<lopex>
enebo: another is if one like the beer, he doesnt go for it to the restaurant
<lopex>
enebo: the demand is skewed
<enebo>
lopex: we had this chicken and egg problem with local craft beer in the 90s and a couple of brewers got into restaurants
<lopex>
yeah, I think that's the case
<enebo>
lopex: in the 2000s things just exploded and there is tons of choices everywhere in town
<enebo>
lopex: outside the city it is all macro beer still but in town many places do not even sell macro beer now (on tap)
<lopex>
enebo: also, those beers have a quite high price for average income here
<lopex>
enebo: even polish ones
<lopex>
it's like 2/10 price ratio
<lopex>
for an ordinary beer and a "cratf" one
<lopex>
can be as low as 1/3, but..
<enebo>
lopex: I think compared to macro beer in a typical adjunct lager in a restaurant is 5$ and many craft beers are the same price but can be 2-3$ higher as well (it depends)
<enebo>
usually the higher price is a rarer beer or a high abv one
<enebo>
in the high abv case it is weird since they serve those in smaller glasses
<enebo>
chrisarcand: how about in the tundra?
<lopex>
enebo: then it's somewhat unrelated to abv here (typical beer / craft one), price is dominant
<lopex>
enebo: of course it goes with abv too, but the fact alone that's a cratf makes it at least 3x costlier
<lopex>
enebo: middle-low price for cratf here is 7-8 pln
<enebo>
lopex: I am trying to remember the macro russian imperial in poland…it is super cheap and high abv like 9%
<lopex>
enebo: normal lager is like even bellow 2
<enebo>
lopex: polish beer prices in poland have that cheaper than soda thing so that might make things harder
<GitHub8>
jruby/master 152cf90 Thomas E. Enebo: Fixes #3545. java.lang.NullPointerException when using for loops
<GitHub20>
[jruby] enebo closed issue #3545: java.lang.NullPointerException when using for loops https://git.io/v05L4
<lopex>
nirvdrum: so truffleruby wont have a separate irc or gitter I hope ?
<nirvdrum>
I'm sitting in #truffleruby, but that was really so someone else didn't squat it.
<nirvdrum>
I suspect we'll have some channel so domain-specific discussion can occur without creating noise for everyone else. But there's no desire to fracture the community.
<nirvdrum>
As you can see, we're all still here.
<lopex>
nirvdrum: using irccloud so I'll join it anyways