14:38 <mac-> hey

14:38 <mac-> do you know anything about any new kernel for rk3066 newer than 3.0.36

14:45 <phh> mainline has some support for rk3066

14:48 <phh> right, only i2c/i2s/ethernet/uart/mmc

14:48 <mac-> but will it boot the syetm ?

14:48 <phh> I guess you want a video output?

14:48 <mac-> would be nice

14:49 <phh> right, that doesn't exist in mainline

14:49 <phh> I've checked the rockchip kernels I know of, and I only see 3.0

14:49 <mac-> thats bad

14:52 <mac-> this unit is so old already an there is still no good support :/

14:53 <phh> I think that's the case of most SoCs of that era

14:54 <mac-> any current ones which has better support ?\

14:54 <phh> you're asking globally or just rockchip?

14:54 <mac-> what about A80 or rk3288 ?

14:54 <mac-> \globally

14:57 <phh> I can't really tell for A80. ATM it seems the support is quite small, but there is a lot of activity on many allwinner chips

14:57 <mac-> really?

14:57 <mac-> which ones

14:58 <phh> rk3288's mainlining has already many things, and many features have been pushed to LKML, but they have many API problems, because they do things that noone did before... Also it is supported by rockchip: https://github.com/rockchip-linux/

15:00 <mac-> rk3288 is quite nice a strong chip

15:02 <wens> mac-: step over to #linux-sunxi :)

15:03 <phh> mac-: do you think of a special sort of device? tvbox?

15:03 <phh> (i.e. do you care about camera/ISP)

15:04 <mac-> I used MK808B as my desktop machine

15:04 <mac-> witl Arch Linux ARM

15:04 <mac-> but after one of updates sth changed in xorg and X stopped to work, driver can't be compiled anyymore

15:05 <mac-> I used fbturbo

15:05 <phh> ok, so no ISP, no camera, no DSI/LVDS. that makes things easier :P

15:05 <phh> right, the X server is still a problem

15:05 <mac-> well, only network and video

15:05 <phh> ATM i'm using rockchip's X server which uses gles-enabled glamor

15:06 <phh> performance wise it's not good.

15:06 <mac-> rockchip's X server ?

15:06 <mac-> what SoC do you have ?

15:06 <phh> https://github.com/rockchip-linux/xserver

15:06 <phh> rk3288

15:06 <phh> you'll see the changes compared to mainline X are fairly small

15:07 <mac-> what device do you have ?

15:07 <phh> but it's using GLES instead of hardware 2d acceleration. 2d hardware acceleration upstreaming is work in progress, but again, there is some API discussion to be done

15:08 <mac-> I understand

15:08 <phh> mac-: GPD XD, Archos 101 Oxygen, Asus C201, Asus flip book, Pipo P9, some tv box (can't even tell the reference)

15:09 <mac-> many

15:09 <phh> yes i'm a fan of that chip

15:11 <mac-> I see

15:15 <phh> but I think there is a bigger momentum around rk3288 devices than allwinner ones, because C201 is being considered for a 100%-free laptop, and chromiumos team is pushing to have things in mainline

15:15 <wens> not to mention rockchip guys also push stuff themselves, unlike allwinner

15:17 <wens> though free electrons and the community are doing a lot

15:17 <phh> yes, what they do is really impressive

15:18 <phh> but rk3399 will be mainlined before devices even ships out...

15:21 <phh> no community can beat that

15:28 <wens> phh: that's true

15:28 <wens> phh: but there's no way that's going to happen unless allwinner gets onboard themselves

15:29 <phh> yup

15:29 <phh> has allwinner ever showed any communication with the community?

15:29 <wens> phh: a bit here and there, mostly with free electrons though

15:30 <phh> ok

15:30 <phh> well I understand a company prefers to talk to a company