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<diginet>
okay, I have some what of an unconventional question.
<diginet>
obviously "anything" is possible, but possible insofar as being remotely practical, would it be possible to modify the milkymist SoC for an open hardware 2D game console type thing?
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<sh4rm4>
it would probably have horrible performance
<sh4rm4>
i dont know any emulator that works well with just 100MHZ
<sh4rm4>
and most open source games need a lot of performance tweaking to be playable on 300MHz-ish devices
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[mibuild] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/-jqYTw
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mibuild/master 275a7ea Sebastien Bourdeauducq: Change license to BSD
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[migen] sbourdeauducq pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/pqTZeQ
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migen/master c1fe6d1 Sebastien Bourdeauducq: setup.py: change license to BSD
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<mumptai>
hi
<diginet>
sh4rm4: I don't mean for emulators, I mean for writing games natively for it
<diginet>
like a new game console
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<sh4rm4>
well you usually want to run emulators and homebrew stuff on a new game console, unless it's some proprietary locked down crap
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<diginet>
sh4rm4: well homebrew is the entire point. Look at the uzebox. I was thinking something like a 32-bit version of that
<sh4rm4>
diginet, you're aware though that most homebrew is written by mediocre programmers using bloated OOP paradigms and C++ clusterfuck ?
<sh4rm4>
in other words, it's designed to run on their 3 ghz boxes, and not on a 100mhz device
<diginet>
sh4rm4: haha, a man after my own heart. seriously, fuck OOP and C++ :)
<sh4rm4>
_o/\o_
<diginet>
C isn't my favorite language, but it's a hell of a lot better than C++
<sh4rm4>
"A mud pie is not a beverage, even if you make it with bottled water" -- Rob Landley compares C++ with C
<diginet>
I really like Ada actually, it gets a bad rap for being bloated/slow, but honestly, it's the next fastest after C/C++ and is a really clean design
<sh4rm4>
i think the next fastest after C/C++ is (free)pascal
<sh4rm4>
or luajit ;)
<diginet>
luajit is very fast!
<diginet>
hmm, you might be right, but in any case, Ada is pretty fast. It's just has a reputation for being slow because of the first compilers
<sh4rm4>
i wonder though why nobody outside of .mil uses it
<sh4rm4>
and even there its only used for legacy stuff
<sh4rm4>
so it must some heavyweight disadvantages
<sh4rm4>
*have
<diginet>
that's actually not true, it has a pretty active community
<sh4rm4>
oh ?
<diginet>
yeah, the newsgroup for instance
<diginet>
they just came out with a new standard last year
<diginet>
Ada 2012
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<diginet>
on an unrelated note, how realistic would it be for me to attempt to build my own MM-One board?
<diginet>
also, I love this quote "C++ has its place in the history of programming languages. Just as Caligula has his place in the history of the Roman Empire."
<sh4rm4>
:)
<cde>
on the topic of programming languages, Rust looks very good. like imperative haskell (doesn't make sense, I know)
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