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* avsm replots graphs, lots of graphs
<avsm> dsheets: worth pulling together docker onto the jitsu graph?
<dsheets> avsm, maybe... depends on if i can get better numbers. i'm looking at straces now
<dsheets> i'd like to be able to see we at least know why it's slow
<dsheets> perhaps i can remove disk access
<dsheets> also, do you know which dhcp client puts network data into environment variables?
<avsm> the isc one i think
<avsm> i'm going to take a shot at a mirage dhcp client after this
<dsheets> roflmao
<avsm> as in one that runs on unix
<dsheets> cooll
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<avsm> yeah characterisign docker slowness would be useful — wonder if its just aufs
<jonludlam> a dhcp server would be nice
<dsheets> that would be absurd... i don't even use the fs
<dsheets> but there is probably startup overhead somehow
<dsheets> avsm, it's using devicemapper
<avsm> ahhh
<avsm> yes
<avsm> jonludlam: xen boot doesnt depend on udev does it?
<avsm> domain build
<jonludlam> shouldn't do
<avsm> vif plug?
<avsm> it used to
<jonludlam> not in the hacked version
<avsm> yes but before
<avsm> that might explain docker
<jonludlam> it doesn't need to - xl will call the hotplug scripts directly
<avsm> got it, so xend used to?
<jonludlam> yes
<jonludlam> so does xapi :-(
<avsm> yeah
<thomasga> avsm: do you know what happens if we do too many printf without flushing the console?
<thomasga> (ie. printf* and no call to Console.log_s)
<thomasga> can it make the console ring explode?
<avsm> thomasga: not recommended for performance
<avsm> xenconsoled is a bit racy
<avsm> but it should work
<avsm> the log_S will just block
<avsm> but xenconsoled draining ring has been known to be buggy in the past, didnt think it was now
<thomasga> ok I'll remove all my printf then ...
<thomasga> seems to work ok at least
<thomasga> (but sometime, some random errors)
<avsm> kk
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<mort___> hannes: another side channel attack (less relevant to tls perhaps but still :)
<hannes> mort___: interesting, again gnupg pays for not using blinding for rsa computation..
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<mort___> <glib, uninformed>what we need is cdma applied to computation</glib, uninformed>
<dsheets> bah "MMC Device 0 not found\nspl: mmc device not found!!" if I try to boot a btrfs-enabled xenarm kernel
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<hannes> (it's not only blinding, but also normalization -- compute first c' = c mod n before decryption)
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<dsheets> Magnus3, should probably use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
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<dsheets> Magnus3, it's... much faster
<dsheets> feels like at least 5x
<dsheets> (systemd vs upstart)
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<avsm> mort___: that was a quick drive
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<mort___> back in horizon
<mort___> not dirving south until ~4
<mort___> meetings+phd supervsiion first
<avsm> mort___: iml gave a bunch of feedback
<avsm> now reading nemesis paper :)
<mort___> hahaha
<mort___> the jsac one?
<avsm> y
<mort___> cool
<mort___> his feedback usu good tho often highy compressed
<mort___> (you never read neemsis paper before? used to be compulsory in srg ;)
<avsm> trying to find detail about filesystem
<mort___> iap or smh (or poss even rolf) good people to ask
<mort___> nemesis was woefully under published
<mort___> think the fs stuff was done out of twente
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<mort___> think the posix api layers above nemesis were done @ glasgow iirc
<mort___> (ask rolf)
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<dsheets> avsm, still doesn't cover the non-xen case, though
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<avsm> dsheets: just xen+docker is fine for now
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<thomasga> any idea what means: Cannot handle page request order 1!
<thomasga> memalign(4096, 4096) failed.?
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<djs55> out of memory I think
<djs55> I can't remember if the malloc/memalign failure causes us to Gc.compact and free our unused Cstructs
<thomasga> ok thanks
<thomasga> I got some interesting "RX exn Invalid_argument("Cstruct.sub")" as well
<djs55> nice
<djs55> we need to do some work on backtrace printing :)
<jonludlam> djs55, what packages do you need to install in trunk to do a opam init --comp...?
<djs55> I usually do something like 'gcc m4 automake'
<jonludlam> it's running with just yum installing gcc so far.. it's not failed yet :-)
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