07:22 <hannes> h01ger: sounds good. is there a way to influence that "hope this will be enough" - I don't personally use debian, but I see lots of reports about this issue on the various bug trackers and would be very happy if this problem would just vanish

08:21 <h01ger> hannes: not really, and if its not good enough i assume it takes another ping and thats all. the change is technically sound, easily reviewable and low risk, so i dont expect any issues

08:21 <h01ger> i also fixed the bug meta data, so it shows up correctly on the release teams radar..

08:23 <mato> h01ger: thanks for this!

08:23 <mato> i've subscribed myself to the p-u bug

08:25 <h01ger> i'll also ping the bug in a week if nothing happens. the fix must be in until 3rd of may, so still plenty of time.

08:25 <h01ger> (and my mail yesterday was a ping too)

17:59 <pie_[bnc]> do you guys know any organizations/projects which do engineering / engineering process / process really well and are worth studying?

17:59 <pie_[bnc]> or any other references? im thinking of writing a bit of a checklist

17:59 <pie_[bnc]> the idea here is that i dont have to struggle to come up with everything myself

18:12 <hannes> pie_[bnc]: I'm not sure I understand what you mean - and is it on-topic for this channel?

18:13 <pie_[bnc]> its somewhat off topic