00:26 <dkm> tom[]: I was 70% joking ;-)

00:26 <dkm> eh, 80%

00:28 <dkm> as more of a general comentary on the "we must support older systems" mantra that many many people follow. I tend to disagree with it, especially when the older systems are badly designed and don't adhear to standards making support really difficult

10:52 <ddfreyne> tom[]: dkm: I'm of the opinion that in order to get people to move away from old systems, support for these old systems needs to be dropped