15:04 <sn0wmonster> Hi everyone, sorry for the prolonged wait on the news. Some of you may have heard that there was a series of unfortunate events, but if not, I'll give some details here for clarity.

15:04 <sn0wmonster> Firstly, while metacollin had been officially added to the project and was making great strides in his duties, a loss in the family saw him taking personal time and the period of time in which he would be gone was unclear. He recently returned to let us know the situation and we're confident we can begin again directly.

15:06 <sn0wmonster> Secondly, our BDFL Joerg has also been suffering from health issues throughout the project's life as far as I can tell, and was in much need of some time to himself to avoid the situation getting any worse. I am sure he will be back soon after his short sabbatical. This is completely independent of metacollin's current leave of absence.

15:08 <sn0wmonster> Thirdly, my professional experiences are not in the hardware development industry, but rather in PR and business. To me, posting news on the public facing website that "there is nothing to report" is not the right way to run a project, and something unofficial (like this IRC statement) is sufficient to explain without plastering everyone's personal lives all over the internet for all eternity. Joerg and I disagree in this and he has been

15:08 <sn0wmonster> asking me nicely to post a new update regardess. My lack of interest in doing so is on me, not him. If you have any issues with the lack of news (Not progress), I am the one to blame.

15:10 <sn0wmonster> Now that all of that is out of the way, know that the next *planned* news posting was intended to be an explanation of metacollin's current workas well as the funding drive for the new developments, but as both of our key people are away at the moment, me posting a news article akin to a motivational poster of a kitten hanging on a tree entitled "Hang in there" is a bit disingenuous in my opinion and I'd rather keep this on IRC until we're

15:10 <sn0wmonster> ready to actually move forward at full speed.

15:12 <sn0wmonster> Lastly, my own personal life has become quite hectic as I have taken a job with PIA in a capacity of quality control and we're currently in a massive transition. This on top of my own FOSS project devotion has made posting news for Neo900 a "content or otherwise" proposition (that is to say, if there is no meat to cook, I am finding it increasingly difficult to go into the kitchen anymore).

15:14 <sn0wmonster> Neo900 is a project that I strongly believe in on principle, despite my criticisms of the price points, moderness of hardware, or constant uphill battle any hardware project has, unless I'm booted or asked to step down, I'll continue supporting Joerg and Neo900 in any way I can. I appreciate the patience from everyone and I know we're all here for the same reason -- with or without neo900, we demand control of our own privacy and hardware.

15:15 <sn0wmonster> If anyone has a special request or wants to discuss this, openly, in this channel is probably the best way to do it. Other than that, I will post a news article when metacollin returns to full capacity as until then, there is nothing much to talk about as no ones intentions have changed in the slighest.

15:17 <atk> sn0wmonster: do you take donations?

15:17 <atk> To be honest, I don't see anything wrong with posting a short statement (like the above) to the website.

15:18 <sn0wmonster> atk, could you clarify the question? Do you mean does Neo900 take donations? or am I the one handlign donations?

15:18 <atk> no, do you take personal donations

15:18 <sn0wmonster> atk, to me, I see something wrong with posting it because it's not news. It's posting about a lack of news.

15:18 <sn0wmonster> nah, I just take donations through RZZT for continued development of #Taskhive

15:19 <sn0wmonster> I guess if anyone ever wanted to donate, that'd be the best way (much as Neo900 is Jeorg's daily driver in life, Taskhive is mine)

15:21 <sn0wmonster> Taskhive is still pre-alpha

15:21 <atk> I see

15:21 <atk> Well it certainly looks like an interesting website that I might try eventually

15:21 <sn0wmonster> we haven't released it yet. this month is final testing before I'll allow it to be released as alpha. too ugly for my taste.

15:22 <sn0wmonster> oh it's not a website, it's a p2p app. the website is just a download page.

15:22 <atk> Will there be a program version or just an app?

15:22 <sn0wmonster> i actually meant that when i said app. i must be hanging around teenagers too much.

15:22 <atk> I see

15:22 <sn0wmonster> alpha is python because bitmessage is python.

15:23 <atk> Will there be some kind of library thing that you can integrate into emacs or something?

15:23 <sn0wmonster> open to future changes in direction based on security and speed decisions, but doing that at this stage would be a project killer as I only have python develoeprs on board

15:24 <sn0wmonster> taskhive itself is just a bitmessage library with an interface for buying/selling services with a specific protocol that allows contracts and such

15:24 <sn0wmonster> i'm not sure what good it would do for emacs to be involved

15:24 <sn0wmonster> i've never used emacs though, so maybe i'm missing something obvious

15:24 <atk> bitmessages are those bitcoin based message things right?

15:24 <atk> well, you see

15:25 <atk> emacs is a great operating system lacking only a decent text editor

15:25 <sn0wmonster> nope. it's a hashing-as-a-anti-spam-measure p2p messaging network

15:25 <sn0wmonster> bitcoin is not involved in any sense

15:25 <atk> so it's customary to implement literally any programming related thing into emacs

15:25 <sn0wmonster> i chose it because it works great as a short-term p2p distributed network for message bus

15:25 <sn0wmonster> atk, oic

15:25 <atk> including a decent text editor, you can now install a decent text editor on emacs

15:26 <sn0wmonster> well taskhive is about doing business, hiring and offering yourself to be hired for services as a freelancer

15:26 <sn0wmonster> so while i am positive, if it becomes useful enough, it will be included as a package in Debian for example,

15:26 <atk> I see

15:26 <sn0wmonster> i don't know if i am the right person to handle emacs inclusion

15:27 <sn0wmonster> its just python afterall

15:27 <sn0wmonster> anyone can use it anywhere python works

15:27 <atk> don't worry, when I work out how to use elisp and if I find your thing useful, I'm sure I'll find the time to implement some emacs major mode for talking to taskhive

15:27 <sn0wmonster> haha thanks

15:31 <Kero> As a freelancer, consider me interested in taskhive.

15:33 <sn0wmonster> Cool. Consider #taskhive and #taskhive-dev then

15:37 <Kero> lurking!