15:13 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry I have to shut down and decommission the neo900.org server

15:15 <DocScrutinizer05> can't afford it any longer

15:17 <enyc> DocScrutinizer05: web.archive.org back it all up for you?

15:17 <DocScrutinizer05> I hope so

15:18 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm still polling interested parties if they want to migrate git to a location of their choice

15:19 <enyc> DocScrutinizer05: web.archive.org has a button to archive page now on request

15:19 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe one of them wants to migrate the regular web content as well

15:25 <DocScrutinizer05> enyc: feel welcome to initiate that. Holler if you need any support from server side

15:40 <bencoh> DocScrutinizer05: if you have a list of git / stuff to archive, I might be able to keep a copy of (at least part of) the stuff

15:41 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: well, git has a web frontend. I'm not up to date on usage and content

15:41 <bencoh> as for the website itself, hosting a static version of it wouldn't hurt me, assuming you want to

15:42 <DocScrutinizer05> I summoned dos1 :-) let's see what he thinks

15:42 <bencoh> alright

15:43 <DocScrutinizer05> werner already about to take care about "his" git repos

15:43 <DocScrutinizer05> just chatting with him

15:43 <bencoh> (I won't host a dynamic version though, because this means running server-side code)

15:44 <DocScrutinizer05> there's basically no server side code and dynamic content, except shop (obsolete and defunct anyway), the "blog" (also dysfunctional) and the git repos

15:45 <bencoh> the main site is part of the blog?

15:45 <DocScrutinizer05> the blog is part of the main page :-D

15:46 <bencoh> ah, the ublog

15:46 <bencoh> alright, that means everything can be archived as static html pages/images

15:46 <bencoh> the relevant part at least

15:47 <DocScrutinizer05> then otoh the *whiole* website is git based which was the point where I lost track of how to implement changes

15:48 <DocScrutinizer05> for an archive that is obsolete too

15:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I gotta worry about stuff like email, internal backup etc pp

15:49 <bencoh> I can also keep a copy of the git repository if needed

15:50 <DocScrutinizer05> let's wait for dos1, at least for a while. This is pending since a year now, a few more days won't kill me (I hope)

15:51 <atk> DocScrutinizer05: how big is the git?

15:52 <DocScrutinizer05> atk: good question, no idea

15:52 <atk> also, you could probably re-host the server on a £5/mo linode

15:52 <DocScrutinizer05> there's website git and there's real software/project git repos

15:53 <DocScrutinizer05> atk: I probably could if I could afford migrating and administrating it

15:54 <atk> I will log in and have a look around, I would be up for migrating it for free if it doesn't look like a terribly big job

15:55 <DocScrutinizer05> many thanks! :-)

16:02 <DocScrutinizer05> dos1: ping

16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> atk: I'd also be grateful for a reasonable cmdline oneliner to backup that system to one of my local disks, without too much cruft

16:04 <DocScrutinizer05> a plain rsync without comnptression and file partitioning seems suboptimal

16:05 <DocScrutinizer05> atk: oh, and http://neo900.files.dev-1.org/ is already about to go /dev/null

16:06 <DocScrutinizer05> unless you're interested to keep it?

16:06 <bencoh> files.devuan.org doesn't sound too useful

16:06 <bencoh> is there anything there that is not a mirror of devuan?

16:09 <enyc> i wonder if leste devs would help archive, may not be helpful, just a thought

16:09 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: nope this is explicitly one of the official devuan mirrors

16:09 <bencoh> DocScrutinizer05: ah

16:09 <bencoh> I see

16:21 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh and atk - you'll negotiate something? let me know what's your idea once you agreed on sth please

16:24 <DocScrutinizer05> enyc: leste isn't interested in nor related to neo900

16:25 <enyc> DocScrutinizer05: sure ok =)

16:25 <enyc> i just thouht might be worth an ask if hasn't been done

16:27 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd have a hard time evaluating offers from there. I don't know the guys that are associated with leste, most of them. Others don't like me and I forgot who those were. Not worth the hassle

16:30 <DocScrutinizer05> personally I'm absolutely happy with the archive-org snapshot plus git repos migrated, plus the rest that's _not_ publicly exposed simply getting a backup on one of my local disks

16:31 <DocScrutinizer05> no changes on the website nor the git repos for almost 2 years, and I'm pretty sure it will stay this way

16:33 <DocScrutinizer05> even stuff like https://web.archive.org/web/20200311084958/http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf works, so I think that's all that possibly is worth keeping

16:37 <DocScrutinizer05> ...for the public. Going to sort with users on this box how to proceed with their homedirs etc

16:54 <atk> DocScrutinizer05: if it's a mirror of devuan then that probably gets a hell of a lot of traffic and it seems it would be costly to maintain, if you don't think you can sustain it I think it's probably best to let someone else do it / ask some educational institution to host it

17:17 <DocScrutinizer05> atk: it's just one of a two or three dozen mirrors. It may vanish with no massive impact on anything. OTOH traffic is pretty low

17:18 <DocScrutinizer05> https://devuan.org/get-devuan

17:43 <DocScrutinizer05> traffic https://i.imgur.com/rcAZ025.png https://i.imgur.com/uo2hzbL.png https://i.imgur.com/935Wb2e.png

17:44 <DocScrutinizer05> that's max 260GB/month

17:47 <DocScrutinizer05> but, as I said, it's not mission critical in any way, it was just "because I can" without any additional cost and gaining some PR by the URL on https://devuan.org/get-devuan

23:30 <dos1> DocScrutinizer05: I'm sick atm, very limited brain processing powers :( will have to get back to it later

23:30 <dos1> however, when it comes to git repos we already had a backup for a while: https://gitlab.com/neo900

23:30 <DocScrutinizer05> dos1: take care, pal! It'snot urgent, get well first

23:31 <DocScrutinizer05> oh great

23:44 <DocScrutinizer05> meanwhile, surprising observation: rsync, during download of a several GB sized *.mkv file @16Mbit, also causes an upstream load of 400kbit