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<Tatsh> i'm new to ocaml; i'm trying to compile an app and it's failing; not sure what to try next
<Tatsh> something i need to type with opal?
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<Algebr> maybe easiest to do `opam install batsh`, then you'll have all dependencies, then plain make
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<Algebr> I used Lwt_preemptive.detach for say 10 items but when I check with ps -o nlwp I see only 2 threads have been used
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<Algebr> I guess I needed to have myself called Lwt_preemptive.init with the min number of threads I wanted
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<Tatsh> Algebr, that fails :(
<Tatsh> think it's the package owner's issue?
<Algebr> What fails, have to give more details. That fails doesn't tell me much
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<Algebr> Interesting, used Lwt_preemptive.detach but looking in htop and only main thread is doing any work
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<Tatsh> Algebr, btw i meant opam
<Algebr> opam install batsh fails?
<Tatsh> yea
<Algebr> camlp4 error
<Algebr> hmm, odd
<Tatsh> what is camlp4?
<Algebr> its a older way of doing syntax extensions
<Algebr> report on github, would be good for devs
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<Algebr> Using Lwt_preemptive.detach and really not understanding why only one of my threads is doing the work, all rest are idle
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<Enjolras_> Algebr: well unless you release runtimr lock in c code only one thread will run at once
<Algebr> No C code is involved
<Algebr> I want all of these threads to run together, hence I used detach
<Enjolras_> the only benefits of detach is preemption
<Enjolras_> it means any thread casn replace the other one at any time mostly
<Enjolras_> but only one will run at any point of time
<Enjolras_> for parallel threads you need ocaml-multicore
<Algebr> fak
<Algebr> what about just forking
<Algebr> Is Lwt_unix.fork actually forking?
<Enjolras_> yes
<Enjolras_> but there are better api actually
<Enjolras_> for instance you can look at Lwt_process
<Enjolras_> of for more tailored libraries, stuffs like parmap
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<seangrove> Has anyone seen try_lwt before? Is it a standard part of lwt?
<Algebr> seangrove: its a syntax extension via camlp4
<Algebr> ppx is the replacement try%lwt
<Algebr> or better Lwt.catch
<seangrove> Ah, yes, I see it now in the Pa_lwt docs
<seangrove> Is try%lwt a straight replacement? Would be great to get camlp4 out of this project
<Algebr> ya, replacement. But again, consider Lwt.catch as well
<seangrove> Is there some ppx entry for .merlin to get it to recognize try%lwt?
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<seangrove> I'll try lwt.ppx
<Algebr> lwt.ppx is enough
<Algebr> PKG lwt.ppx
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<seangrove> Getting: `Syntax error inside `try', maybe replace `TRY' `PERCENT' by expr`
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<Algebr> try%lwt with is fine, maybe restart merlin
<seangrove> Nope
* seangrove sighs
<Algebr> the try expression needs to be a Lwt.t
<Enjolras_> seangrove: maybe remove camlp4 extensions too ?
<Algebr> ah yea, did you leave FLG in .merlin
<Enjolras_> if it was compiling with try_lwt you had pa_lwt enabled
<seangrove> One second, I'll paste it
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<Enjolras_> wth. it looks correct
<Algebr> is that a merlin error or a compiler error
<seangrove> merlin
<Algebr> kill merlin, try restart
<Enjolras_> looks like the syntax error is cascadind from another part of the code
<Enjolras_> are you sure you converted all the file to ppx
<Enjolras_> like, don't you have a lwt foo = blah in earlier ?
<seangrove> Enjolras_: Not 100%, no. But refmt works now, whereas it was breaking earlier, so I assume there's no camlp4 left
<seangrove> Nah, I put that at the top of the file
<seangrove> Algebr: Running M-x merlin-restart-process doesn't have any effect
<seangrove> merlin-kill-instance + merlin-restart-process ends up with the same errors
<Enjolras_> where does this message come from ? i've never seen precise syntax error like this
<Enjolras_> maybe you are usin reason merlin with ocaml code ?
<Algebr> ah yea, merlin_extend or something
<seangrove> Enjolras_: Yeah, I wonder if there's some camlp4 reference somewhere around
<Enjolras_> something like that since you are talking about refmt
<seangrove> Enjolras_: Nah, not using reason now, just noticed that it didn't work before, is working now
<Enjolras_> (i don't know reason very well)
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<seangrove> Ok, `make tests` fails with a "Syntax error" as well
<adrien> mfp, def` : hmmm, true, that wouldn't be serializable; thanks for pointing that up! proves I'll need to spend a bit more time on the question :)
<Enjolras_> that doesn' look like the usual ocaml error in any case. It would have been "syntax error"
<seangrove> Enjolras_: Syntax error inside `try', maybe replace `TRY' `PERCENT' by expr ?
<seangrove> Well, I'll poke around a bit
<seangrove> Could be another file with some leftover camlp4
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<Enjolras_> seangrove: yes. unless i missed something bleeding edge this is not an error from ocamlc
<Enjolras_> it doesn't give that many infos yet
<seangrove> Enjolras_: The message is coming from merlin, yes
<seangrove> No worries for now, I'll idly keep poking at it
<Enjolras_> as for me i'm trying to build a jsoo pet project with oasis
<Enjolras_> but i can't access jsoo stdlib
<Enjolras_> + /home/joris/.opam/4.03.0/bin/ocamlfind ocamlc -c -g -annot -bin-annot -package tyxml -package js_of_ocaml -I src -o src/fdeck.cmo src/fdeck.ml
<Enjolras_> Error: Unbound module Tyxml_js
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<Enjolras_> actually the jsoo stdlib yes but tyxml no
<reynir> I think tyxml is a seperate pakcage
<reynir> separate
<Enjolras_> ah right i missed it in the meta
<Enjolras_> there is js_of_ocaml.tyxml thanks
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<seangrove> That was a painful failure mode though
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<seangrove> Well, I got it compiling, but merlin is still miffed
<seangrove> Got it! Bit by bit
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<Enjolras_> do you know what is the canonical way to manipulate untyped json with jsoo ? i'm using yojson but maybe there is a more native solution
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<reynir> Hm
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<Drup> seangrove: for next time, use camlp4toppx
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<Enjolras_> Drup: didn't get how to use that to iterate on the structure, or inspect the precense of members. It looks ore like marshal, with a string -> 'a, but when you expect 'a to have a schema
<Drup> yes, it's exactly like marshal
<Enjolras_> I was more refering to something like yosjon where you can visit the json hierarchy
<Enjolras_> but actually, yojson is fine
<Drup> well
<Drup> json objects are javascript objects in javascript
<Drup> so, you can access things as javascript properties, with ##.
<Enjolras_> ah. Makes sense.
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<frefity> Hi, I have a quick question. If I create a custom type, "type age = int", how can I create a value of that type?
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<frefity> I know I could say "let my_age:age = 21"
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<Drup> let my_age = 21
<Drup> your type is not really a custom type, it's just an alias
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<frefity> Ok, I think I see the problem. In my actual code I have "type nanoseconds = int64", but as far as I can tell there isn't a literal way to create an int64, is that right?
<Drup> sure, 4L
<frefity> ah, great, thanks :)
<frefity> It's these little things when learning a new language :)
<Drup> (you don't need literals though, Int64.of_int works just fine
<frefity> Sure, but I was hoping there was a shorter way
<frefity> Thanks. I'm working on my first ocaml project now and I'm really enjoying it
<Drup> nice :)
<Drup> what is it ?
<frefity> a client library for this: http://nsq.io/
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<adrien> Int64.of_int has one less bit available however :P
<adrien> that said, for nanoseconds...
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<frefity> In this case it's used to specify network timeouts.. It's nanoseconds since that's the granularity used by Go (which the server is written in)
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<Enjolras_> frefity: very nice. Is it opensource ?
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<Enjolras_> strongly related there is already okafka btw
<frefity> Enjolras_, it will be
<dsheets> I like 4_L so you can see the type clearly and not mistake L for a digit
<Algebr> Okay super confused, using Lwt_unix.fork and when child exits there's another fork!
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<pierpa> why is NSQ better than xmpp?
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<reynir> I think it's different
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<def`> Enjolras_: error message was from merlin master, pre 4.03 support (and this is 4.03 construct)
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<Algebr> Lwt.on_any is like a superset of Lwt.catch, right
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