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<kmicinski> Likely stupid question, but what package provides Lwt_preemptive? Google searches lead me to believe that it should be `lwt`, but I do not seem to be having much luck with the compiler (although merlin recognizes it), and I get "no implementation provided for.." (also using true:thread)
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<companion_cube> maybe lwt-unix?
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<ganeshjacharya> hello
<ganeshjacharya> where find softwares developed using ocaml?
<ganeshjacharya> how prone or safe is ocaml when compared to php?
<ganeshjacharya> how prone or safe is ocaml when compared to php wrt hacking?
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<lpollen> you can find libraries on opam.
<lpollen> rather than "it is 1.33 safer (repeating of course)", I'd just say that OCaml has a much more expressive and useful type system, which becomes a tool that you can use to be more precise with your programs than is possible with PHP. That has implications for safety but how much safety you get depends on your use of the tool.
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<ec> def`: thanks! (and reynir, and dr_toboggan.)
<ec> had a lot of trouble googling that 🤣
<reynir> :)
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<m_m> Hi. I am just wondering...what is the main real word commerce purpose of Ocaml? I can see that there are some compilators written in Ocaml but it is quite hard to find something else. Async libs are years beyond Scala or Elixir. The same with the web frameworks.
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<lpollen> m_m: I guess you meant to say 'behind', not 'beyond'? OCaml isn't that popular so you could say that it *doesn't* have a "main real word commerce purpose". If you look for Jane Street presentations about the language, just videos of them talking about their experiences with the language, they go into some of the appeal of the language as it is.
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<m_m> lpollen: So Ocaml is still pure academic language? I really love the syntax and F# for my perspective is to strongly connected with MS...
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<Drup> m_m: OCaml is a general purpose language. It can be used for a lot of things. If you look at https://ocaml.org/learn/success.html you will see some examples of usage in various company
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<lpollen> that was an unexpected guess.
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<ganeshjacharya> thanks lpollen
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<kmicinski> So in my recent adventures with lwt, if I use anything that involves preemptive threads, I get a very strange "Bus error: 10" on OSX
<kmicinski> Any hints here..
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<kmicinski> OMG threads work in bytecode compilation but not native :-(
<kmicinski> Such a red herring. Geeze. Macs are hard.
<Drup> you seriously have setup issues :D
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<kmicinski> Yeah, I honestly just need to nuke my ocaml install
<kmicinski> and start over
<kmicinski> But I did that a few weeks ago and this was the result
<kmicinski> I *must* have hard coded some ldconfig flag somewhere or something. And macs make this way harder than linux because of clang vagaries.
<kmicinski> Glad to see it works with bytecode compilation turned on though.
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<Drup> kmicinski: just make a fresh opam switch
<Drup> And avoid system switches
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<def`> +1 for avoiding system switches (no issue on mac, though I might have updated the right parts without realizing)
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