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<ShalokShalom> kakadu: hi there
<ShalokShalom> how imperative your implementation of qt/qml is?
<ShalokShalom> so, how much imperative stuff I have to do, using it
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<kakadu> shalokshalom: Are you asking about OCaml side or QML side?
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<ShalokShalom> kakadu: OCaml
<ShalokShalom> QML is always declarative?
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<kakadu> QML can be purely declarative but while logic is simple it's better to implement it in Javascript
<kakadu> Or you can implement everything in OCaml and compile to Javascript
<kakadu> So, it could be a real programming language
<kakadu> About OCaml part. It has API similar to Qt Model/View pattern which is a little bit imperative
<kakadu> (you should give QML an access to getter function and update signal for data)
<kakadu> But I think it can be easily wrapped with some OCaml reactive lirabry. (I didn't try it)
<kakadu> (I'm not a big enthusiast of reactive programming either but it obviously has advantages)
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<Ulrar> Not easy to google, so does anyone know if <| exists anywhere ? Guess it's basically the equivalent of $ in haskell. I know batteries has @@ but I find that hard to read
<ggole> @@ is in the stdlib
<ggole> If your ocaml is recent enough, anyway
<Ulrar> I don't know, I've just seen it in batteries but maybe yeah
<ggole> That particular choice of operator is due to the precedence, which is fixed by the first character in OCaml
<Ulrar> Still, there's |> so it feels logical to use <|. And even ignoring that, I just don't find code using @@ easy to read, but that's just me
<ggole> You can define <| yourself easily enough
<Ulrar> Sure, but I'm sure I've read it exists somewhere
<ggole> You might need some extra parens, that's all
<Ulrar> I don't know, maybe I've been doing too much ELM
<ggole> Is it called <| in elm?
<Ulrar> Yep
<Ulrar> You've got |> and <|
<ggole> It's not a bad name
<Ulrar> I like it a lot
<Ulrar> Even people who have no idea how the langage works can mostly read it
<Ulrar> Lwt has >>= and =<< too
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<Leonidas> And the flower operator, >|=
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