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<olle_> ;*
<flux1> is it easy to have a ppx module in one .ml and use it to compile another .ml with dune? separate directories perhaps needed?
<Leonidas> flux1: I think so, if you declare a thing as a ppx rewriter then dune should be able to pick it up in another `dune` file.
<octachron> flux1, it is relatively easy in my experience. You don't even need a separate directory, but it helps to avoid listing target modules explicitly.
<Leonidas> flux1: yes, I have a ppx_deriver that I use somewhere else on my project without installing.
<Leonidas> octachron: separate directories are still a good idea to not confuse .merlin files, as such I very much recommend it.
<flux1> perhaps I'll look into it :). I need to construct SQL queries from fragments and I was thinking of a ppx to enforce that fragments are always composed of string literals or from a blessed module
<flux1> too bad syntax extensions don't get any private access to anything, so in principle I could just do whatever the syntax extension does and overcome any limitations
<flux1> but then _in principle_ I could just do `module Db : sig type t val (!) : string -> t end` and just do `Db.(!"INSERT"..)` and that would in practice just be completely fine :).
<flux1> (and perhaps [%lit "INSERT"] would be a too heavy-weight syntax anyway)
<octachron> If you need a hard-to-stumble upon accidentally access, one potential option is to use non-parsable indentifier (like ⋄). Then only ppxs can insert this identifier.
<octachron> Also for more complex foreign fragment, 4.11 has {%lit|INSERT|}.
<flux1> I would need to implement "both sides" of the identifier use with a PPX then, but I guess that's doable, if not a bit hacky 🤔
<flux1> (so both definition and usage)
<Leonidas> oh, TIL {%lit||}
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<flux1> I guess one reason not to use ppx for such a, well, frivolous benefit would be the potential ppx breakage in future OCaml releases?
<octachron> A ppx that replace one extension point by an ast build with helper functions should be quite stable
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<rain1> hey
<rain1> is there a math library that has stuff like factorization of polynomials?
<zozozo> rain1: there is owl ( https://github.com/owlbarn/owl ), but I don't know if it has factorization of polynomials
<rain1> thanks
<flux1> pretty nice, I remember having seen that project a long time ago and still seems to be going strong
<flux1> however, it's bit concerning that the page says it's being maintained by a consulting company https://komposio.com/ :-)
<flux1> but wow, their documentation is on the next level if this is a measure of it: https://ocaml.xyz/book/signal.html
<flux1> that kind of work might get a boon out of OCaml multicore support in the future
<olle_> drinking game: drink everytime someone says "multicore" in ocaml community
<flux1> just because we like to program OCaml don't mean we're all alcoholics :((
<flux1> ;)
<flux1> but, some part of the mc project is already integrated, IIRC! Just not the tasty bits.
<Leonidas> hannes: how difficult would it be to extend conduit for unix socket support?
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<zozozo> olle_: we'd all die before it's merged, XD
<octachron> olle, do I need to drink if I use the "OCaml 5" code name ?
<Leonidas> oh, hold on, it already does!
<olle_> OCaml 5?
<olle_> never heard
<hannes> Leonidas: I've no idea, sorry. I still don't understand conduit too well.
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<flux1> it does indeed support it already, as does it support fds and some more exotic sockets
<flux1> I recently used the fd-feature to implement end-to-end-testing with my server. 1) create and bind a socket on dynamic port 2) pass that socket to the binary 3) you now know the port and you can use that for the rest of the testing
<flux1> a bit more complicated to implement without that (I guess the binary could do the dynamic binding itself and then write the port to some or, or something, but that's more hackish)
<flux1> s/to some or/to some file/
<companion_cube> mbuf: updated ocabot's readme
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<mbuf> companion_cube, thanks!
<companion_cube> juste be careful not to spam the chan :)
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